May 29 - Lil Wayne Sued, Says "I Feel Like Dying"

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 10 years ago '04        #21
JFamis 236 heat pts236
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 hardcopyhc said:
Right and wrong my friend because you can only sue for damages when you have proof of someone making money from you creating or taking credit for what you've done, Wayne in this case did the song but it was not released to the public for sale nor profit. Therefore he may have tried to seek a license for using the song but you don't need one if it was just for sh*ts and giggles.
You're somewhat right. This stems from fair use, which anyone can use a sample of someone's music as long as it's for noncommercial purposes. So, for instance if he put it on a nonprofit mixtape he would be okay as long as that mixtape is not directly promoting a tour or album. But, he put it on MySpace, which is a direct promotional tool. MySpace also features advertising, which it benefits from users loading their music on the site. However, MySpace has a policy about loading copyrighted content on their site and they prohibit it. Now it would have been likely to have been thrown out in court still because that wouldn't necessarilly implicate him nor mySpace, because in doing that he is not directly providing the song for users to download to their hard drive so it can't prove it has affected the original artists right to prosper from the work. MySpace is also okay because the DMCA doesn't hold ISPs responsible for content users load on to their networks as long as after they are notified by the copyright owner they remove it in a timely fashion.


Now here is where Wayne fu*ked up and this is why he will likely pay damages. He performed the song publicly at concerts and was paid to do it. So now that will implicate the fact he loaded it to MySpace as a promotional tool to profit from the work. All of the fair use rights he had prior he lost once he performed it commercially. Also, if his mySpace hosted the song and provided tour dates and album release information that's enough to hold him liable for some kind of damages.


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 10 years ago '08        #22
hb5000 
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thats stupid, he didnt release it it leaked how could she sue
 10 years ago '04        #23
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actually some of the people are saying he did the song in concerts and it was on itunes...so thats considered selling it
 05-29-2008, 10:14 PM         #24
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Why is Wayne getting sued? Did he make the beat? Also, why is she just now suing him?


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 10 years ago '04        #25
JFamis 236 heat pts236
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 YI-Drizzy said:
Why is Wayne getting sued? Did he make the beat? Also, why is she just now suing him?
Performing it. I think it has to be in stores for the producer to get sued too.
 10 years ago '07        #26
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 illathruz said:
just throwing this out there to stimulate debate. i hate when everybody agrees.

Copyright is a legal concept, enacted by most governments, giving the creator of an original work exclusive rights to it, usually for a limited time. Generally, it is "the right to copy", but also gives the copyright holder the right to be credited for the work, to determine who may adapt the work to other forms, who may perform the work, who may financially benefit from it, and other, related rights.

Copyright may also be licensed. Some jurisdictions may provide that certain classes of copyrighted works be made available under a prescribed statutory license (e.g. musical works in the United States used for radio broadcast or performance). This is also called a compulsory license, because under this scheme, anyone who wishes to copy a covered work does not need the permission of the copyright holder, but instead merely files the proper notice and pays a set fee established by statute (or by an agency decision under statutory guidance) for every copy made. Failure to follow the proper procedures would place the copier at risk of an infringement suit.

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 10 years ago '04        #27
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Lil Wayne is a fu*kin joke!! He is what's WRONG with hip-hop.
 05-29-2008, 10:52 PM         #28
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i don't think she can do that if that was the case the n*ggas would be gettin sued all the damn time from them using someones else beat on a mixtape he aint really make of that sh*t anyway.
 10 years ago '04        #29
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This Karma Ann chick is a Boer?
 05-30-2008, 12:24 AM         #30
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If he isn't making money off it then she can't sue him. Wayne might of loved her track so he made his own version of it... this bi*ch is just looking to make an easy dollar.
 10 years ago '05        #31
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damn..someone had said that girl committed suicide..thats why i was like..how the fu*k shes suing
 10 years ago '04        #32
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 YI-Drizzy said:
Why is Wayne getting sued? Did he make the beat? Also, why is she just now suing him?
Maybe cuz she dont even know who he is and she aint checkin for sh*t as soon as he drops it....unless she listens to mixtapes or went on his myspace how would she know it that quick?
 10 years ago '04        #33
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The point yall are missing is...is the legal extent of the song.

I've checked, and Lil Wayne (and the label) have already copyrighted his version without getting permission/giving credit to the original owner. That's his first ultimate mistake. You cannot legally copyright a 'sampled' body of work; without having an agreement in place with the original copyright owner; or in essence it IS illegal. Secondly, 'IF' they have published this song through ASCAP (who Wayne is registed through)...they would be receiving airplay royalties off all the radio play the song has gotten; and she'd have more grounds to sue for infringment on.


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 05-30-2008, 06:48 AM         #34
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her version might be better
 10 years ago '07        #35
KnicksLost 17 heat pts17
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Same way he stole "A Milli" from Corey Gunz but didn't have the decency to give the young kid a feature
 10 years ago '04        #36
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^he didn't steal "A Millie"....that is Wayne's beat....that is Wayne's song...

Cory was a feature originally...but he outshined Wayne on the track...so Wayne took him off & did it as a solo track instead....Wayne Fears Gunz...
 05-30-2008, 08:22 AM         #37
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what are half of you talking about... you dont have to make a profit to be sued for infringement... if you record over someone elses music you can be sued for infringement... just like if your not selling but only downloading music, movies or whatever you can get sued for infringement
 10 years ago '04        #38
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 YI-Drizzy said:
why is she just now suing him?
Because people that dont listen to hip hop like this lady that probably doesnt sign on BX everyday to find the new wayne song and probably just got brought to her attention and then she had to get legal advice and figure if she has any case, which she does people on here are stupid (not the fact that mixtapes are not free, you just download them, but you can sue for anything welcome to 1990). Rather the case can be towards wayne, but more likely the producer of the track. In the long run if what is said by the lady is true, she will be seeing money. Some1 stole her work, i dont think you be to happy if some1 stole something you worked on and is your carear. Get money, fu*k bi*ches!


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 10 years ago '04        #39
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alot of you people have no idea what you talkin bout
 05-30-2008, 10:58 AM         #40
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 Deuce Black said:


yes she does, it doesnt matter if he didnt sell it...

samples by law have to be cleared if it is released for promotional use


kinda fu*ked up, I know
You don't know sh*t about the law son. Some thing you can escape for example if for self promotion like a mixtape or a paraody, that is how mad tv and in living color stayed in business and not to mention weird al.
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