Reports: Jason Kidd Traded To Dallas/ Devean George blocking the trade

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 10 years ago '07        #81
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Jason Kidd has quietly -- and not so quietly -- hoped for a trade to the Dallas Mavericks all season.

Those hopes are about to realized, according to NBA front-office sources.


Sources told ESPN.com that the Mavericks and Nets on Wednesday reached an agreement in principle on a Kidd deal after talks had seemingly stalled last week, moving the teams to brink of completing the NBA's third blockbuster deal of the month.

Although sources say that the teams are still sorting out final details, this deal was described as "imminent" by multiple sources close to the process after negotiations moved to an advanced stage Tuesday night. The deal -- salvaged from talks on a three-way trade with Portland that developed and fizzled quickly two weeks ago -- has Dallas sending 24-year-old point guard Devin Harris, veteran swingman Jerry Stackhouse, the expiring contracts of center DeSagana Diop and swingman Devean George and guard Maurice Ager to New Jersey for Kidd and forward Malik Allen.

Sources say Dallas will also add the league-maximum $3 million in cash and send its first-round draft pick this June as well as a first-rounder in 2010.

The Nets are expected to buy out Stackhouse's contract immediately, which could enable him to re-sign with Dallas if he waits 30 days, and ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard reports that the Nets and the Mavs are likewise poised to complete a separate trade that will send swingman Antoine Wright to Dallas for a future second-round pick.

Dallas has been widely considered the most likely winner of the Kidd trade sweepstakes, despite the repeated attempts of Mavericks owner Mark Cuban to publicly dismiss the idea of parting with multiple regulars for Kidd. Cuban told several New York-based reporters Sunday before New Jersey beat Dallas that a deal for All-Star floor leader would severely weaken his roster.

"For us to make the numbers work in a deal like that, we'd have to trade away half the team," Cuban said. "We're not doing that, so it just doesn't work. And we like our team. We've got a lot of room for improvement and we hope to get better. But right now, I just don't see anything happening.

Yet sources close to the process insist that the talks have heated up in the past 24 hours, with the Mavs still tantalized by the prospect of bringing Kidd back more than a decade after the pre-Cuban regime drafted him out of Cal, watched him share rookie of the year honors with Grant Hill in 1994-95 and then traded him to Phoenix on the day after Christmas in 1996.

The Mavs' biggest reservation, though, isn't sacrificing Harris. Sources maintain that Dallas, while reluctant to part with one of Cuban's favorite players and its point guard of the future after signing Harris to a contract extension over the summer, has been resigned for some time to losing Harris if it meant getting Kidd back.

The greater hesitation, sources said, is that they would also have to part with Stackhouse and Diop, weakening Dallas' depth. Even if the Nets do waive Stackhouse as expected and Dallas is able to re-sign him after a 30-day wait, losing Diop is a significant blow, as that leaves the inconsistent Erick Dampier as the Mavericks' only veteran center at a time when potential playoff foes like the Los Angeles Lakers (Pau Gasol) and Phoenix Suns (Shaquille O'Neal) are getting bigger.

But Dallas appears more motivated than ever in spite of those concerns and the current lack of a third team to join in and broaden the trade, believing that Kidd -- although he turns 35 in March and is threatening to establish a new career low with his 36.7 percent shooting from the field -- is still a prime source of leadership and mental toughness.

Kidd displayed those qualities in abundance during a strong summer with Team USA and those areas are well-chronicled weak spots for the Mavs, who followed up a historic collapse to Miami in the 2006 NBA Finals with a first-round flameout against Golden State after winning 67 games last season. A point guard of Kidd's caliber, influence and experience would undoubtedly please the demanding Avery Johnson, reinvigorate a team that has been lacking energy and confidence and supply Dallas' coach with a dangerous four-man core of Kidd, Josh Howard, Jason Terry and reigning MVP Dirk Nowitzki.

Nowitzki is the player Kidd has had in mind when privately telling a.ssociates in recent months that he hoped to go back to Dallas. Although his desire to leave New Jersey had been suspected all season, Kidd didn't go public with that wish until late January, when he told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher that it's time for him and New Jersey "all to move on" in separate directions.

Kidd was acquired by the Nets in the 2001 offseason in a trade with Phoenix featuring Stephon Marbury and sparked New Jersey to the most successful period in the team's NBA history, starting with back-to-back trips to the NBA Finals in 2002 and 2003. After giving strong consideration to signing with San Antonio in the summer of 2003, Kidd elected to stay with the Nets. During the past four-plus seasons, however, New Jersey has not advanced past the second round of the playoffs, despite the 2004 arrival of Vince Carter and Kidd's successful recovery from microfracture knee surgery.

The Nets were prepared to deal Kidd to the Lakers at the trade deadline last season but pulled out of the deal when the Lakers refused to part with center Andrew Bynum, who has since blossomed. This deal would give them a highly rated point guard who's 10 years younger than Kidd and three cap-friendly contracts if the Mavericks indeed include Ager.

The Nets could come away with even more salary-cap relief if the Mavericks built their trade package around Harris and a signed-and-traded Keith Van Horn. Although he has been out of the game since the end of the 2005-06 season, Van Horn hasn't filed official retirement papers with the league, allowing Dallas to retain his rights. And because Van Horn's final NBA salary was nearly $16 million, Dallas can re-sign him for a substantial amount and thus create a lucrative expiring contract for the Nets, because only the first year of a contract must be guaranteed in a sign-and-trade arrangement.

Cuban, though, told ESPN.com last week that "we won't use [Van Horn] in any deal for anyone." That's because Kidd would cost the Mavericks nearly $40 million next season, thanks to the luxury tax, if they sent only Harris, Van Horn and salary-cap filler to the Nets.

 02-13-2008, 03:29 PM         #82
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 Tempus # 1 said:
im gonna give you hate every day now
Prove me wrong motherfu*ker , then give me hate a**hole
 10 years ago '04        #83
hockeythug 66 heat pts66
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 10 years ago '06        #84
modalee 5 heat pts
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Samuel D philly wouldnt give up Sam for anything less than J Terry and Stackhouse but to add him into the deal for andre miller haha ur smokin crack this isnt NBA Live go back to your video game life.
 10 years ago '07        #85
keithbm1111 97 heat pts97
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Miller would have been a better add just because he wouldnt cost as much. he is not better than Kidd, but i dont know if Dallas would have to give up nearly as much. they could keep Diop probably, so that saves them a big man, but they made their trade and now theyre gonna have to try and contend with it.
 10 years ago '06        #86
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 keithbm1111 said:
this is a dumb trade for the Mavs. Kidd will probably play like 2 more years, if he plays beyond those he'll be much less productive i think. they get rid of their big men, and have no one to cover shaq, amare, duncan, yao, boozer, all the bigs in the west. all they got is dirk and dampier, both not good on D. and they get rid of a young pg who has a good amount of potential for a 35 year old point guard who still produces, but for how much longer? definitely dont think Kidd will take Dallas to the finals
Kidd will play 3 more years at least

I expect an announcement from Cuban saying that hes gonna resign Kidd thru the 2010-2011 season for another 20 Mil... that was the rumor of what he was gonna do a few weeks ago if they did make a deal for Kidd


paying someone 20 mil @ 39 years is ridiculous tho... they can have Kidd at that price
 10 years ago '07        #87
Jeet Kune Do 12 heat pts12
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andre miller sucks compared to Jason Kidd
 02-13-2008, 03:41 PM         #88
ceo 
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 Tempus # 1 said:
im gonna give you hate every day now
chill out it's obvious he's stupid..just let him be
 10 years ago '04        #89
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 jj01 said:
yessss


mavs are fu*kin stupid

d harris is better than j kidd by himself, and will be a better fit for the mavs. he was going to be very good for them. j kidd cant shoot, so unlike harris defense will be more willing to let him miss shots. mavs arent a breaking team, just with howard and dirk. plus stack was a key bench player and with harris, were the only 2 willing and able to drive the ball and get to the line.

devin harris better then j idd??

are u smoking???

dude is nice tho,i lie the trade
 10 years ago '06        #90
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 NYGiantsHUSTLER said:
The East Has Now Officially Lost
hmm not really... doesn make any difference for EAST..but ye west did get betterrr yet still DALLAS wont be going to Finals :)
 10 years ago '06        #91
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 mt fuji said:
devin harris better then j idd??

are u smoking???

dude is nice tho,i lie the trade

kidd has more stats with the rebounding etc. but i just meant harris was a better fit and long term answer for that squad imo
 10 years ago '04        #92
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man fu*k.....this is that bullsh*t..they should at least try to get Boone or Sean Williams or SOMETHING....i like the Antoine Wright pickup....but STILL....Devin, Diop, AND Stack?

Kidd ain't worth that much, not for how much is really gonna cost us as far as personnel.....look how much depth we lose...left with JUST Dampier now, no scoring pop off the bench besides Jet......:banghead:

....WE COULD WIN WITH THE TEAM WE HAVE!!!!! why get SMALLER when everyone else in the West is gettin BIGGER?
 02-13-2008, 03:48 PM         #93
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 jj01 said:
kidd has more stats with the rebounding etc. but i just meant harris was a better fit and long term answer for that squad imo
yea but it seems to me that these teams are shooting for the short term; a championship now
 10 years ago '06        #94
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 ceo said:
yea but it seems to me that these teams are shooting for the short term; a championship now

yes, but a smaller squad wont get it done now in the bigger west
 10 years ago '04        #95
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Herd they gonna buy stackhouse out? Then he is going to resign with dallas after 30 days? If they do that is he eligible to play in the playoffs?
 02-13-2008, 03:54 PM         #96
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 jj01 said:
yes, but a smaller squad wont get it done now in the bigger west
so you think Dallas was more of a legitimate contender before the trade for kidd??
 10 years ago '04        #97
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 Aftashok said:
man fu*k.....this is that bullsh*t..they should at least try to get Boone or Sean Williams or SOMETHING....i like the Antoine Wright pickup....but STILL....Devin, Diop, AND Stack?

Kidd ain't worth that much, not for how much is really gonna cost us as far as personnel.....look how much depth we lose...left with JUST Dampier now, no scoring pop off the bench besides Jet......:banghead:

....WE COULD WIN WITH THE TEAM WE HAVE!!!!! why get SMALLER when everyone else in the West is gettin BIGGER?
and the draft picks i'm not worried about so much, the Mavs are one of those teams who don't put THAT much stock into draft picks, because they get real good value out of the guys they DO pick, even late in the draft.....but i STILL feel they're giving up TOO much....
 10 years ago '04        #98
hockeythug 66 heat pts66
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Can talk and f!ght about it all day, just gotta watch and see what happens. Cant really say anything in till these players(Shaq,Kidd) actually play.
 10 years ago '06        #99
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 ceo said:
so you think Dallas was more of a legitimate contender before the trade for kidd??

yup, when they are healthy and turn it on in the playoffs i thought they were a legitimate contender to get to the finals right behind us.
 10 years ago '04        #100
hockeythug 66 heat pts66
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 jj01 said:
yup, when they are healthy and turn it on in the playoffs i thought they were a legitimate contender to get to the finals right behind us.
Problem was they are regressing this season and are not even starting to step up their play for the playoffs.
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