December 13th, 2007: Official Mitchell Report Thread

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 10 years ago '04        #161
1000bluntz 
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 NoLedge18720 said:
How is A-rod not on there. everyone talking about the difference in bonds from his rookie year till now but look at a-rod
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ARod was only 18 when he first came on the scene, he's obviously gonna look drastically different today.
 10 years ago '04        #162
tommymm96 2 heat pts
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varitek should get his money back because they didn't work for him
 12-13-2007, 01:42 PM         #163
icedout921  OP
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let's be real this list is nothing speical..

all that hype..
 10 years ago '05        #164
BoSox84 
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 Jasonb619 said:
I bet I can predict the time Brady Anderson started taking steroids lol

1991 27 BAL AL Games: 113 Home Runs: 2 RBI's: 27

1992 28 BAL AL Games: 159 Home Runs: 21 RBI's: 80

That sh*t came in '96 when he went from being an average power hitter to hitting 50 home runs. Nobody ever doubted that he took roids to hit 50 that year
 10 years ago '04        #165
Jasonb619 
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It's funny the players who took it that it didn't help lol.. has to be a slap in the face to them.
 10 years ago '05        #166
Garnet & Gold 42 heat pts42
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All I gotta say is, I currently have no problem with the Tejada trade

George Mitchell >>> Baseball.


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 12-13-2007, 01:45 PM         #167
icedout921  OP
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mostly roids just allow you to play through injuries. recovery time and sh*t.

all this magic home runs is bullsh*t. it helps you hit the ball alittle further for sure proably throw harder but its for the benefits on why people use them the most.
 12-13-2007, 01:46 PM         #168
ItsDaCarter20  OP
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^ Bonds lied , when ur accused and lie, thats worse than what you did wrong, just like Vick , people dont understand, its the lies that got him fu*ked, i agree baseball is fu*ked and selig is in a bad situation
 10 years ago '05        #169
BoSox84 
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The ENTIRE industry needs to be held responsible. The players took it, but the owners, GMs, and every body in the front offices knew what was going on. They looked the other way because the game needed to be revived after the '94 strike.
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 all3rd said:
Two lists so far.

Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Ha irston,
Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt
Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, R obert Machado,
Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offe rman, Andy Pettitte,
Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts,
Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rod riguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott
Schoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez , Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada,
Julian Tavarez,Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, Jason Varitek, Ismael
Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood. Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Bar ry
Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton B radley,
David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken
Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozz ie Canseco, Roger
Clemens
, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenn y Dykstra, Johnny Damon,
Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Fr anklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces,
Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Jua n Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar
Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, jackkindregan (9:54:45 AM) :
Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gon zalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston,
Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt
Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Ma rk McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado,
Damian Moss, Abraham

Another list Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton Bradley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozzie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez,Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, Jason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood

Time for the public to ease up on Barry Bonds yet? He rubbed people the wrong way with his attitude, and him allegedly lying to the feds is another issue... But now condemning Barry means condemning a whole gang of loved players with him. I don't think the public is ready to turn their backs on the likes of Clemens, Petitte, and Varitek among others. Gonna be interesting to see if people still try to separate Barry from these other named players...
 12-13-2007, 01:48 PM         #171
Hurricane Ra  OP
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I have been saying Clemens was on roids for years. Thank god this is finally out. Now lets see how the media attacks him
 10 years ago '04        #172
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 jdel said:
stop crying, you test tube baby
you know you dont care about this sh*t!! you gonna boycott baseball after this? nope. This doesnt mean anything to anybody except the media. I dont care because the most exciting thing in baseball is homeruns and america loves high scores. fu*k this sh*t. This is sports news not take over every station news. What is this 9/11 part2. Its not that serious. You going to record this mitchell report and masturbate in your own feces to it?
 10 years ago '04        #173
GarySanchize24 239 heat pts239
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Non Yankee Players Named so Far:

Greg Zaun, Jay Gibbons, Jerry Hairston Jr., Gary Matthews Jr., Miguel Tejada, Larry Bigbie, David Segui, Rondell White, Jack Cust, Brian Roberts, Denny Neagle, Brian Roberts, Paul LoDuca, Ryan Franklin, and Ron Villone.

A bunch of Orioles have been caught, not counting Rafael Palmeiro.
 10 years ago '04        #174
doro85 2 heat pts
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any white sox??? hmmmm
 10 years ago '04        #175
badboy600 15 heat pts15
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As a baseball fan......I really don't give a sh*t about this
No steriod in the world will help you hit a 90mph faseball


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 10 years ago '04        #176
GarySanchize24 239 heat pts239
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The steroids obviously didn't help Clemens while on the Yankees form 98-01, because he was very mediocre. His #'s with Houston though would obviously indicate he was doping. Pettitte's #'s have always been the same throughout his whole career, so I don't believe he was doping as much.
 10 years ago '07        #177
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 luda06 said:
The Mitchell report bout to air out the league at 12PM EST.

Roger Clemons still gotta arm like that ...ROIDS!
We all kind of new that a lot of these guys were roided up. I mean can you remember when Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Clemons, Canseco, And Palmero were all skinny f*cks in the late 80's to early 90's?

Tuff avy tough dog...:applause:
 10 years ago '05        #178
Santoro 12 heat pts12
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If Griffey was on HGH you would have known. He was injured too much to be on HGH. If he was on HGH he would have been bouncing back from injuries like it was nothing. And he wasn't. He's a real player.
 12-13-2007, 01:57 PM         #179
KrayLay  OP
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None of this bothers me at all. And if you think the only players that did steroids are the ones on the list you got another thing coming.

This is the steroid era and people need to get over it. Bonds doesn't hit 755+ HR without PED's. Babe Ruth doesn't hit 714 HR's in an intergraded league, Bob Gibson doesn't have the great year he did inn 1968 if the the late 60's wasn't so pitching heavy.

Anyway, for those who are intelligent fans, (doesn't look like there a lot based on these dumb a.ss replies) you should know, when comparing players over the course of the 110 years, you should only compare certain players to their contemporaries, and then go from there.

And plus those three facts that I stated doesn't mean that Ruth is not the best player of all time, Bonds is not in the top 7, and Gibson was great as well.

People need to get over it.
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Santoro 12 heat pts12
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