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 2 months ago '12        #26
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 Sir_Burn_Alot said
Picking up Mjölnir has nothing to do with strength at all.



Thanos beat Hulk that badly because he had the Power Stone already

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But I somewhat agree with your overall premise. The MCU can be inconsistent at times with the strength/abilities of the characters.
He didn't use the power stone during the f*ght. Watch it again the stone never lights up. The Russo's said they did that on purpose.
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 2 months ago '18        #27
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Can't measure heart my g.
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 2 months ago '15        #28
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 Sir_Burn_Alot said
Thanos beat Hulk that badly because he had the Power Stone already
Was the power stone activated when he was f*ghting Hulk?
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 2 months ago '19        #29
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Yall disrespecting the Prime example of doing the Most with the minimalist options


Captain is corny. Hold that against him all u want. But Cap is a certified G. Not the American Overtone tho.. Keep up!
Captain America.. Steve Rodgers thru his actions and how he leads is why he is one of the Best period.

He does the intangibles noone else bothers to try, ONLY AFTER being beaten or helped tremendously by some outside help.

Dont matter what phase, what writer, what story arch. Cap is to be respected and feared. How he dismantles people...(smh)
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 2 months ago '04        #30
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Batman>> Capt America

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 2 months ago '17        #31
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 Sir_Burn_Alot said
Picking up Mjölnir has nothing to do with strength at all.



Thanos beat Hulk that badly because he had the Power Stone already

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But I somewhat agree with your overall premise. The MCU can be inconsistent at times with the strength/abilities of the characters.
Nah they already explained hulk got beat without use of stones.
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 2 months ago '18        #32
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 2 months ago '11        #33
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 mumbosauce said
Captain America has been either dead or in a alien prison for years now


I need at least one of them to be Skrull

 2 months ago '17        #34
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Cap had to be overpowered after they bi*ched him the entire first Avengers movie. Good movie, but that choice was a fu*king disgrace
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 2 months ago '05        #35
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 WHATEVERMAN said
The MCU has never been consistent in how they portray the team's pecking order. In the original Avengers, Hulk was pretty clearly the strongest yet got his a*s whooped in a 1v1 match against Thor in Ragnorok.
Hulk's power levels change depending on which incarnation he is. Savage hulk is stronger than most because he's a dumb and relies on rage. The smarter hulk is, usually the weaker he is. Except for world breaker hulk which was pretty much a harmonization of hulk and bruce. They became a team so he was able to stay smart and become super enraged. Even in the comics and most cartoons, they usually portray thor and hulk as close to even. But Thor doesn't often use his full powers. And Asgardians get stronger the older they get.


Just like in Winter Soldier, Bucky was giving Cap all he could handle with his mech arm yet in Civil War Spiderman made is arm look like child's play. There's zero consistency.
Spider-man is stronger than captain america. he always has been. The super soldier serum makes cap a really strong human. Which is why him and bucky are pretty even because bucky has the serum too. But spider-man is stronger. He can literally lift tons of weight. Like cars. Cap can't life a car.


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 2 months ago '18        #36
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 Avenger772 said
Spider-man is stronger than captain america. he always has been. The super soldier serum makes cap a really strong human. Which is why him and bucky are pretty even because bucky has the serum too. But spider-man is stronger. He can literally lift tons of weight. Like cars. Cap can't life a car.
Cap lifted up a 15 ton support beam off of Bucky and this was *AFTER* being shot repeatedly and stabbed through the clavicle.

He also chucked a motorcycle in Avengers: Age of Ultron.

I'm pretty certain he can pick up a car no problem.

I remember reading somewhere how in the MCU they designed the super soldier serum to be reflective of the individual. I.E. because of Blomsky's love of f*ghting he was able to heal his whole body like a superhuman. Because of Cap's courage he has superhuman strength. etc


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 2 months ago '15        #37
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 Pleasure Boy said

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This mafuccka is way too overpowered... In Winter Soldier this mafuccka struggled against Bucky but he can defeat Spiderman so easily... Both Winter Soldier and Falcon got they a*s beat by Spiderman but somehow he was handicapped against Cap... Black Panther beat the breaks off Winter Soldier with and without the suit but was handicapped at the German airport... Iron Man beat the sh*t out of both Cap and Bucky but still held back and Cap beat him coz of one distraction... Thanos beat the Hulk till he gave Bruce Banner full control of his body... Beat the breaks off Thor... Fuccked up Half the Avengers plus The Guardians Of The Universe but Cap managed have a moment against the strongest being in the Universe


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Captain America is MCU's Batman... Hes way to fuccking overpowered its like his opponent becomes handicapped everytime they f*ght against him... This n*gga stopped Thor's hammer with that shield and Thor is suppose to be a God... And even though he didnt pick Thor's hammer up in Age Of Ultron he made it move slightly so that makes him stronger than Hulk
He had the weakest villain in all the MCU movies but he's stronger than almost all The Avengers

Yo fucck Captain America this is bullsh*t


No qualms against what you said

The MCU did have Black Panther beating the brakes off Captain America though.

The only dude whoever beat him to my knowledge.

 2 months ago '05        #38
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 MYd*ckSOCOLD said
Cap lifted up a 15 ton support beam off of Bucky and this was *AFTER* being shot repeatedly and stabbed through the clavicle.

He also chucked a motorcycle in Avengers: Age of Ultron.

I'm pretty certain he can pick up a car no problem.
I'm going by comic book stats on what his strength goes. "Rogers' physical strength is enhanced to the very peak of human potential, making him consistently able to sustain lifts 800 lbs (363 kg"

Peak of human potential is limited. To say that support beam was 15 tons is a bit of an exaggeration. Motocycles run around 400 pounds so yea, he would be able to chuck that if he is able to sustain 800 pounds. And sustain means 800 isn't his max. But he's not lifting something close to 2000 pounds.


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 2 months ago '18        #39
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Motherfu*kers throwing shade at cap even the punisher stands down at caps orders. He is the embodiment of the human spirit.



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 2 months ago '05        #40
Avenger772 14 heat pts14
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 Pleasure Boy said

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This mafuccka is way too overpowered... In Winter Soldier this mafuccka struggled against Bucky but he can defeat Spiderman so easily...
Experience beats strength in most cases. That was a quick f*ght and neither one was really trying to hurt the other. And they didn't go toe to toe. Cap dropped something heavy on him and ran away.

Iron Man beat the sh*t out of both Cap and Bucky but still held back and Cap beat him coz of one distraction...
Isn't that how a lot f*ghts can change direction though?

Thanos beat the Hulk till he gave Bruce Banner full control of his body... Beat the breaks off Thor... Fuccked up Half the Avengers plus The Guardians Of The Universe but Cap managed have a moment against the strongest being in the Universe
I mean, the scene, cap is giving everything he has and Thanos is just toying with him. It was the equivalent of a kid swinging wildly at you and you're holding them back by their head.


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 2 months ago '10        #41
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I had no idea Thanos beat Hulk without the power stone activated.
I could be wrong but I think Thanos is supposedly superior with his hands and he's damn near a genius. I never read the comics but my boys told me that.
Thanos best villain since Heath's Joker. Depending on how End Game is, he might pass him for that #1 spot.

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 2 months ago '05        #42
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 Head Coach said
Also how Captain America, black widow and falcon, saved wanda and vision a*s so easily
vision was badly wounded gimping his powers and wanda isnt a full scarlet witch yet had she been full powered she would have easily k*lled them.

and captain was the distraction a tactical move to allow widow and falcon to get in place to ambush and separate the enemies

yes captain is super solider but aside from his physical strengths his other greatest ability is planning a mission and a*sessing a current mission in progress and adjusting to it.


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 2 months ago '15        #43
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 Outlawfromabove said
Bro... it's a movie
Yeah but as a writer you dont wanna rely on that format.

 2 months ago '14        #44
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Let's see. Uru metal hammer against Vibranium shield.
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 2 months ago '15        #45
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 Pleasure Boy said

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This mafuccka is way too overpowered... In Winter Soldier this mafuccka struggled against Bucky but he can defeat Spiderman so easily... Both Winter Soldier and Falcon got they a*s beat by Spiderman but somehow he was handicapped against Cap... Black Panther beat the breaks off Winter Soldier with and without the suit but was handicapped at the German airport... Iron Man beat the sh*t out of both Cap and Bucky but still held back and Cap beat him coz of one distraction... Thanos beat the Hulk till he gave Bruce Banner full control of his body... Beat the breaks off Thor... Fuccked up Half the Avengers plus The Guardians Of The Universe but Cap managed have a moment against the strongest being in the Universe


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Captain America is MCU's Batman... Hes way to fuccking overpowered its like his opponent becomes handicapped everytime they f*ght against him... This n*gga stopped Thor's hammer with that shield and Thor is suppose to be a God... And even though he didnt pick Thor's hammer up in Age Of Ultron he made it move slightly so that makes him stronger than Hulk
He had the weakest villain in all the MCU movies but he's stronger than almost all The Avengers

Yo fucck Captain America this is bullsh*t

Not knocking you, but you must know little about Cap. He has beat spider man plenty of times in the comic. They are literally portraying him how he is. You just now noticed he was the Batman of the Avengers?

 2 months ago '17        #46
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Cap a good n*gga no cap
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 2 months ago '18        #47
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Well its weird... captain Americas power inst just about raw strength when referencing he f*ghting thanos and moving thors hammer...its about he having a pure heart and honor... As corny as that sounds.lol


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 2 months ago '06        #48
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 Pleasure Boy said

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This mafuccka is way too overpowered... In Winter Soldier this mafuccka struggled against Bucky but he can defeat Spiderman so easily... Both Winter Soldier and Falcon got they a*s beat by Spiderman but somehow he was handicapped against Cap... Black Panther beat the breaks off Winter Soldier with and without the suit but was handicapped at the German airport... Iron Man beat the sh*t out of both Cap and Bucky but still held back and Cap beat him coz of one distraction... Thanos beat the Hulk till he gave Bruce Banner full control of his body... Beat the breaks off Thor... Fuccked up Half the Avengers plus The Guardians Of The Universe but Cap managed have a moment against the strongest being in the Universe


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Captain America is MCU's Batman... Hes way to fuccking overpowered its like his opponent becomes handicapped everytime they f*ght against him... This n*gga stopped Thor's hammer with that shield and Thor is suppose to be a God... And even though he didnt pick Thor's hammer up in Age Of Ultron he made it move slightly so that makes him stronger than Hulk
He had the weakest villain in all the MCU movies but he's stronger than almost all The Avengers

Yo fucck Captain America this is bullsh*t
 WHATEVERMAN said
The MCU has never been consistent in how they portray the team's pecking order. In the original Avengers, Hulk was pretty clearly the strongest yet got his a*s whooped in a 1v1 match against Thor in Ragnorok. Just like in Winter Soldier, Bucky was giving Cap all he could handle with his mech arm yet in Civil War Spiderman made is arm look like child's play. There's zero consistency.
 Sir_Burn_Alot said
Picking up Mjölnir has nothing to do with strength at all.



Thanos beat Hulk that badly because he had the Power Stone already

..............

But I somewhat agree with your overall premise. The MCU can be inconsistent at times with the strength/abilities of the characters.
 psylence2k said
Overpowered would give the impression that Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, etc are considerably weaker than him but nobody thinks that.

The MCU movies go back and forth inconsistently displaying relative strength to give each character their moment to shine. So they mostly end up seeming around the same.

Captain America didn't seem overpowered at all when he went toe to toe with Batroc.

1. Thanos wasn't using the power stone to beat the Hulk.. you can see it wasn't illuminated

2. It's called the Worf effect... they show how strong a character is by defeating an established character everyone knows is strong.


Like for example... for the casual fan they've only heard about Thanos and seen him in a few credit scenes and know he's strong but have never seen him in action so they have nothing to establish how powerful he is so right off the jump in the movie they wasted no time showing him giving the hands to the Hulk to show Thanos is no joke and they can respect and be scared of how powerful he is the rest of the film...

that's why the powers are inconsistent because they need to let the viewer visualize how strong someone is instead of just a*suming and guessing. If you never saw Thanos f*ght the entire movie you would just ask why didn't they just go directly at him but if you show him laying the beats you're going to understand why everyone avoided him.
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 2 months ago '15        #49
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 ICONIC said
Well its weird... captain Americas power inst just about raw strength when referencing he f*ghting thanos and moving thots hammer...its about he having a pure heart and honor... As corny as that sounds.lol
That typo is hailarous
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 2 months ago '12        #50
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 MrRager said
Lifting Thor's hammer isn't a matter of strength though, you have to be "worthy". I don't even think that applies to Thor's axe though.
Side note: hope we get to see Beta Ray Bill at some point.
 Xyrax said
I came just for this.

It doesn't make sense to say that because he was able to move the hammer he's stronger than Hulk, because picking up Mjolnir ain't about strength.
Im not saying that the hammer require strength... But if you're not Thor you use strength and thats what they all did in Avengers Age Of Ultron... Hulk tried picking up the Hammer in the 1st Avengers and it didnt even move an inch...
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