Guvnor said Didn't know Special Herbs came through that label. The Chronic tho..wow! Doom ain't lying but he being political with that answer lol. Never knew Doom had a child or a wife Seems to me like Doom is hella Grimey. Damn. This interview makes Doom seem kinda fu*ked up but as they say sometimes it's best to never meet your idols. This was a very good read, thanks for sharing this man. I got to check out some of Mf Grimm's music when I have time but by reading it it seems like they came up with the MF together and Doom just flipped his after he left M.I.C to mean Metal Face, instead of Mad Flowz or Mother fu*king.

The MF is short for Monkey Fam, it's origins have something to do with Kurious, Stretch Armstrong, Bobbito, Lord Sear...

PATHH88 said The MF is short for Monkey Fam, it's origins have something to do with Kurious, Stretch Armstrong, Bobbito, Lord Sear...

Oh wow, I heard of Stretch Armstrong and Bobbito but not the other two. Did they give doom that name or something?

Thanks for the info. I used to think it just meant metal face

Guvnor said Oh wow, I heard of Stretch Armstrong and Bobbito but not the other two. Did they give doom that name or something? Thanks for the info. I used to think it just meant metal face

Kurious Jorge is on Doomsday track called ? and he was first signed to Pete Nice's (3rd Bass) label Hoppoh records and dropped the album "A Constipated Monkey", that is tied in with how they came up with Monkey Fam through Stretch & Bobbito's world famous radio show which Lord Sear was on. Lord Sear was involved with Eminem's world tour for The Eminem Show, think he was the Ring/Circus Announcer and is a legend in the 90's underground scene as are the other names. Grimm was on the Kurious album under his original moniker The Grimm Reaper but, and I'm not 100 on this, but because the Gravediggaz then dropped with one of them called the Grim Reaper he changed it and that was when MF was added and at around that same time DOOM changed from Zev Love X, his name in KMD...
And DOOM, like Grimm, was def doing dirt in the streets so he prob is a grimey person, he was def locked up for a while in Baltimore but not sure of circumstances, plus he been known to send DOOM clones to his shows to perform as him and try to pocket the cash and fu*k the fans over...allegedly lol

PATHH88 said Kurious Jorge is on Doomsday track called ? and he was first signed to Pete Nice's (3rd Bass) label Hoppoh records and dropped the album "A Constipated Monkey", that is tied in with how they came up with Monkey Fam through Stretch & Bobbito's world famous radio show which Lord Sear was on. Lord Sear was involved with Eminem's world tour for The Eminem Show, think he was the Ring/Circus Announcer and is a legend in the 90's underground scene as are the other names. Grimm was on the Kurious album under his original moniker The Grimm Reaper but, and I'm not 100 on this, but because the Gravediggaz then dropped with one of them called the Grim Reaper he changed it and that was when MF was added and at around that same time DOOM changed from Zev Love X, his name in KMD... And DOOM, like Grimm, was def doing dirt in the streets so he prob is a grimey person, he was def locked up for a while in Baltimore but not sure of circumstances, plus he been known to send DOOM clones to his shows to perform as him and try to pocket the cash and fu*k the fans over...allegedly lol

Damn! Thanks for sharing the history with me bro. I know Doom was homeless at one point but ain't no he was doing dirt and yeah He used to send in imposters at his shows. Doom seems like an a*s hole man Real Villain!

Does anyone know why biggie says

Cause G-E-D, wasn't B-I-G
I got P-A-D, that's why my mom's hate me


one time i heard one where he said PAID..but its always PAD?


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LBoogie2122 said -"The bridge is over" was a Marley Marl beat that Krs One and Scott La Rock found in a studio. -Paul C was murdered by his wife and his brother

I thought Marley said is was just the stolen Drum sounds ? not the actual beat

You know how many Black dudes were questioned behind Paul C ? fked up

SmokeyTheBlunt said it gets even weirder with Tha Realest too......... dude doesnt just sound like Pac, he hangs out and raps with a lot of Pac's Bay people........ I fu*ked with Top Dogg tho.......... Chronic 2000(Suge hoed dre out the album name and is why chronic 2001 is named what it is despite being released in late 99) and Too Gangsta 4 Radio were fu*king hilarious........both had some bangers too

He hung out with a lot Pac's people too? damn! It's funny how life is sometimes I know they must have thought to themselves these two homies sound just a like I wonder how well Pac and Tha Realest actually knew each other.

Also yeah man I forgot about Suge doing that to the chronic follow up, thanks for reminding me about that Like I said Suge is a black devil

SmokeyTheBlunt said did and still does..........last time I checked he was still in Yukmouth's group The Regime...... to this day I still have zero clue if him and Pac actually knew each other. I remember him popping up a year or two after Pac's death and he was working with all Pac's people........ and talking about Chronic 2000 and Too Gangsta 4 Radio made me go dig them up......the intro off the first 200 disc should be mentioned in the best intros of all time convo....... at Treach insinuating that Pac's alive at the end of the track and I forgot how great Too Gangsta 4 Radio was....... Im bout to start a duel appreciation thread for them......

Damn he still does too, that's wild man Those are really his genuine friends.

Also yeah man you should do appreciation thread for those albums. Those albums were something else man

2pac never smashed Faith Evans.

So is this true or not?

good facts

- There's a documents out which recites a jail call between BG and a friend ( a notorious k*ller in the NO) in which they joke about that time BG got too loaded to go out and k*ll somebody

- BG has heavy ties to telly hankton and the hankton family (google him)

- birdmans nephew "bulletproof" an original member of the hot boys, got k*lled by a*scociates of another record label, after havin a lil buzz in NO

- shortly after that, their rapper got k*lled

- soulja slim's k*ller lived another 8 years after the k*lling bragging bout it

- soulja slim robbed fans after his show

- soulja slim robbed dope dealers

- turk got a couple bodies on him

- birdman paid 4 alotta hits

- wayne shot himself and claims he got shot sometimes

- bg moved weight

Qwes1 said I didn't say he was the first,I am saying he is the only one right now signed to Def Jam.

yg is

Everything was wild from start to finish

According to Jazzy J The term "Underground Hip Hop" originally was not referring to artists or music that are not mainstream, but a sound. There was a club called the Underground in NY that only played a certain type of hip hop and those songs were then labeled Underground based on that style of hip hop.

Big Daddy Kane and Jay-Z are only a year apart in age

Ras Kass went to jail essentially ending his career for a drinking and driving.

Heather B from Sway on the morning was a member of boogie down productions

Ad-Rock is the crowd noise on T La Rock's "It's Yours"

MCA programmed the beat for Paul Revere

French Montana speaks fluent Arabic

Chaz Bojorquez was bombing the skull in a mink way before New York Graffiti.

Chuck D gave Busta Rhymes his name, after a college football player of the same name.

N.O.R.E's first rap names were MC Yahoo and Papi

Pharrell and Chad of the Neptunes stole all the equipment for their first studio.

Ice-T was in the Navy stationed in Hawaii and was also a jewel theif/cat burglar.

Afrika Bambaataa was a Black Spade gang leader before forming the Zulu Nation.

Snoop Dogg went to high school with Cameron Diaz and sold her weed.

Louis Farrakhan has admitted to being partially responsible for the a*sassination of Malcolm X.

Fat Joe said his name Joey Crack is a childhood nickname he got for always having his a*s crack hanging out, not for selling crack.

Radio DJ's had been mixing on reel to reel long before Disco dj's did with records.

Louis Armstrong had bArs.

Freddie Fox is the one who a*saulted PM Dawn not KRS-1

tech n9ne was a b-boy

Tupac fu*ked Madonna and lived in Marin Ca not Oakland in his early days.



I got all this info from first hand accounts in interviews available on youtube. Sorry for any repeats.

About Big Pun supposedly hitting Jay-Z over the head with a bottle..

So here's some backstory, I'm from Boston but my fam is originally from the Bronx and I have an uncle who still lived out there while I was growing up so I used to go to his crib on Fox Ave in the South Bx every year from 99-07. In 01' or 02' I remember leaving the crib with my uncle to go to the movies or some sh*t and there was this Puerto Rican dude just kinda posted on the block and my Unc for some reason was mad excited to introduce me to him, so he introduces me and tells me how this dude used to run with Pun & Joe & the rest of Terror Squad but as soon as we walk away my Unc tells me "that niqqa right there smashed a Cristal bottle over Jay-Z's head in the club, left him bloody in VIP." I was like 11 years old so I was like oh sh*t for real? My Unc confirmed and I never thought that this knowledge would be useful but here I am lol.

So basically, I'm not sure Big Pun did it himself or the niqqa I met in 02' did it, either way it seems like Jigga got roughed up by some Rican niqqas from the Bronx.

Sir Mix A lot had Naughty By Nature ran out of Seattle during a show cause Vinny disses Mix A lot on "On and On". Supposedly he had Vinny coppin pleas backstage at the first Source awards

Bruce Suillus said ...Ice-T was in the Navy stationed in Hawaii and was also a jewel theif/cat burglar... Tupac fu*ked Madonna and lived in Marin Ca not Oakland in his early days...

Ice-T was in the Army...

Marin is right next to Oakland...

Eazy's artist Kid Frost from his group the Brownside has clarified his death better than anyone I can think. He said that right before Eazy got sick they were touring n the bus got into a accident. Apparently the label or somebody around him had him go to acupuncture for his injuries. Frost says a girl he knew real well worked at the offices and told him about Eazy coming in n that right after the sessions he had were complete is when he initially started getting n sick. sh*t is on YouTube I believe it's a vlad interview he says this in.

Artists who i heard were pus*y, most robbed more than twice Busta Rymes jazze phae Nas Dr. Dre Shyheim from the wu Mase(to the 20th power) got yapped for his chain at a knick game Puff Jermaine Dupri camron(still my man tho) stephon marbury got his chain yapped while takin a nap in his car in NY Allen iverson's been robbed many times i hear young buck did get his gunit chain yapped in chicago DMX, i heard its all a front for image of course Ja Rule and Irv, but i heard irv's brother holds massive weight 50's hood but i hear he has NO thorough backup Snoop lost his juice, but is backed by the crips only because he makes songs to crip to. Jadakiss

You're obviously a suburb weirdo or unimaginably stupid if you believe this. We ALL know Puff had ties to the Black Mafia Family and HE was the one bussing in that club that night. Secondly, getting robbed NEVER equates to being pus*y. You BX gangstas obviously never grew up in the hood. I know some of the most gangsta n*ggas in the world that were robbed and did nothing about it. One, ANYbody can get caught slipping. Secondly, sometimes the consequences from the retaliation aint worth it and is bad for business. fu*k I look like k*lling a n*gga over a 30k chain when I'm worth 20 million? You n*ggas live in fantasy gangland.....

i remember reading something explaining who A-train was, if i find it ill post

48601 said lol.. im a just leave it at that..

THIS....
I slapped but i slapped with love lmao some things you really have to give minimal attn i did laugh at it a little at the audacity

Can't believe I read it all it was real back in the days anyway it's unbelievable how much sh*t goes on behind hip hop it's real out there

Ever wonder why B.I.G and Tupac predicted their deaths. Well, B.I.G was a snitch and he used to snitch on people for selling apparel and footwear for the low. He was ashamed of himself and knew that he was going to commit attempted suicide.

Tupac used to snitch on people for fake id's. As we know, he always wears a bulletproof vest and he chose not to wear a bulletproof vest on that one day. He was bashful and skittish but did not want to die though. He wanted to undergo surgery to look like a transgender. He had enough money to get surgery but Grandpa Ill robbed him. His next option was to ask TheMan080 for the money but TheMan080 Asked what he needed the money for. He told TheMan080 that he needed the money for coins. TheMan080 said yes. (This money was not borrow money) Tupac then asks for less money. TheMan080 said no. Tupac then shipped him 35 cases of Grand Cru. Tupac told him that he needed the same amount as the first time. TheMan080 said yes. Tupac told him that he needed furniture too. TheMan080 said yes. Tupac told him that he needed 11 $2 dollar bills. TheMan080 said yes. Tupac told him to send the money first then the furniture and bills. TheMan080 said no. Tupac asked Coldstare for the money and he said no. Tupac commits attempted suicide.

Proof did the same sh*t. No bulletproof vest on that one day and yall prolly knew he was a snitch. I know Thrice and Richard Hennessey knew.

Tupac did not have s*x with madonna. Krs one had s*x with madonna. She hated it and had s*x with Big Daddy Kane. Hated it then had s*x with Afrika Bambaataa. Hated it and had s*x with Sho Stopa's father.

Cameron Diaz sold Snoop Dogg weed