Common - The Dreamer, The Beilever [Album Discussion Thread]

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 6 years ago '05        #141
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 Pos said:
The Dreamer :cool-smiley-009:
opened up the album like a champion
 12-15-2011, 03:40 PM         #142
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 im starving said:
just listened to between me you and liberation, that sh*t definitely goes hard man.. but as far as introspective stuff goes I feel like it was pretty straightforward (the 3 situations that is, not the metaphors woven inside the verses) and the rhyme scheme was a bit linear.. compared to another similarly deep verse like his verse on respiration w/ blackstar

not trying to say that song isnt on a classic level, just common has a LOT of conscious songs that are dope as hell
that's what I like about those songs that I listed though. You listen to dear mama slippin etc they're not metaphorical they're straight forward and raw. That allows for them to be enjoyed by people who can't follow deep metaphors, thus touching a wider audience.
 6 years ago '05        #143
D-Clutch 4 heat pts
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Dope as expected. No ID brought the heat. Com did as well.

Only 2 tracks that I didn't really like, Raw and Windows.. not bad by any means, just thought the other tracks were better.
 12-15-2011, 04:00 PM         #144
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 big blak afrika said:
that's what I like about those songs that I listed though. You listen to dear mama slippin etc they're not metaphorical they're straight forward and raw. That allows for them to be enjoyed by people who can't follow deep metaphors, thus touching a wider audience.
I can definitely feel that, although slippin, dear mama, and all i got is you were beautiful classics because not only were they personal, they were about the one and only person you have when your back is against the wall. there is much simplicity in that kind of love, and i completely agree with you on that note.

However i felt like between me you and liberation was more from an outside perspective giving depth to real situations felt by others who were close to him.. i dont know if that makes any sense.. that's why i judged the song by how much thought it provoked and how intricate he weaved the story..

it's kind of like the difference between lost ones (perspective) and breakdown (personal turmoil).. haha hate to use a j cole reference but it's kind of what i've been jamming lately so that comparison came to mind..
 6 years ago '10        #145
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some of these hooks are soft as fu*k... not feelin it... the verses are piff as fu*k tho..
 12-15-2011, 04:28 PM         #146
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 NotoriousKCK said:
If I had to rank Common's albums, the list would go:

1) Be
2) Resurrection
3) The Dreamer / The Believer
4) Finding Forever
5) Like Water For Chocolate
6) One Day It'll All Make Sense
7) Can I Borrow A Dollar?
8) Electric Circus
9) Universal Mind Control
TD/TB and Finding Forever over LWFC
 6 years ago '08        #147
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i still like the roots album more buts it not bad
 6 years ago '11        #148
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smh @ people thinking this ISNT better than Finding Forever. that sh*t was average...at least we all know its better than UMC.

My personal top 10:
1) Like Water For Chocolate - one of my top 5 favorite albums ever
2) Resurrection - came out before i was a fan but i grew to love it
3) One Day It'll All Make Sense - very mature album, love the concepts throughout.
4) The Dreamer / The Believer - this is after 2 spins.didnt like Be as much as others but i liked it alot
5) Be - Very good album but a tad bit overrated.
6) Electric Circus - Com's most underrated album. has its missteps but isnt as bad as people say
7) Can I Borrow A Dollar? - Solid debut. Would have ranked alot higher back in the day for me.
8) Finding Forever - Dont care for this. its basically Be Part II but not as good.
9) Universal Mind Control - Weird album but i did like a few songs on it.


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 6 years ago '05        #149
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1&2) Resurrection & Like Water For Chocolate.. really can't choose.
3) One Day It'll All Make Sense
4) Be
5) The Dreamer, The Believer (after 4 spins)
6) Can I Borrow A Dollar?
7) Electric Circus
8) Finding Forever
9) Universal Mind Control
 6 years ago '04        #150
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much respect to Common and to the Roots for dropping some good, soulful hip-hop in these watered down times
 6 years ago '09        #151
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i love the album more each time i play it.

window is the best song imo
 6 years ago '05        #152
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undun >>> this.

Great album nonetheless.
 12-16-2011, 04:44 PM         #153
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 6 years ago '04        #154
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 Karamu said:
TD/TB and Finding Forever over LWFC
 12-16-2011, 05:30 PM         #155
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 dopemcee said:
i mean lets be honest though..


its easy to make a classic album when you're only giving us 10 songs..


lets say a n*gga records 60 songs in 2 years..u telling me 10 of those songs are not gonna really bang? its when you start going in the 15 song an album category thats when you start putting fillers in..
It's not easy to make a classic album no matter what you do.
 12-16-2011, 05:58 PM         #156
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 dopemcee said:
bruh i guarantee you if you take most albums that is being put out..and you take the best 9-10 songs from it and get rid of the rest..albums that we consider 'average releases" would actually improve to "strong release" even if its not classic status..it would be strong.

thats what common has mastered..how to put out a strong release by putting out 9-10 songs on his cd...


i aint knocking it like that..but im just saying i see through it.........dude's album is 50 mins..well more like 45.

but outkast didnt have to play that game to give us classic albums..just saying..
Yeah, there's a big difference between a "strong release" and a "classic" but I see what you're trying to say.
 6 years ago '07        #157
RubbahBandMayn 6 heat pts
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This album is fu*kin awesome! The Dreamer and Gold are GREAT :cool-smiley-009:
 6 years ago '05        #158
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If it's easy to make a classic album with only 10 songs..that's what people should do.

This album was very very good..in a year with a lot of good albums. Cloth, Celebration, and Lovin I Lost are my favorites on my first couple of listens..of course Ghetto Dreams is dope as well but that's been out for months.
 6 years ago '08        #159
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Glad i waited to give this album a good listen... Great Album from Common...

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