No sh*t who didn’t know that?…. 21 sounded like he was doing a Drake impression on that album….

He didnt say drake wrote all his verses smh u a damn liar

shooter said I mean… tell me where I’m wrong. I’m open to a different opinion if you have one. In my opinion, he lost the battle to push because his kid & adidas deal was outed via Kanye backdooring him. As far as bars, he stood his own. As far as being solid, dude has the same team around him for a decade+ and I don’t know of any ovo, mob ties, young money or cash money people saying he did them dirty in that timeframe. I also can’t think of another artist at that level that has that type of track record for being solid. Most had to snake a few people/ deals to maintain their position.

When his bars are up to par with pharohe, mos def, posdenous then I'll give him some credit otherwise he is only popular cause the masses are dumbed down

Solitary Genius said view image Yall n*ggas be trying it boy

Word. Mans said hold his own when Drake legit stopped the record and posted a press release statement that was basically "hey guys this is getting too serious and personal" after the story of addion released.

HH080 said Word. Mans said hold his own when Drake legit stopped the record and posted a press release statement that was basically "hey guys this is getting too serious and personal" after the story of addion released.

Story of Adidon had like 20M views on YouTube in the first two days it dropped and drake literally had that sh*t taken off of YouTube cause the scoreboard was lookin ugly...

We know who this dude is for sure

Affectz said He didnt say drake wrote all his verses smh u a damn liar

So if Drake only wrote 75% of 21’s verses does that make you feel better about it?

NAKHI ALLAH said When his bars are up to par with pharohe, mos def, posdenous then I'll give him some credit otherwise he is only popular cause the masses are dumbed down

That’s like me saying Hondas may be the most reliable cars out here and you saying “ when they make one that can beat a F1 racecar 0-100mph holla at me, until then Hondas ain’t sh*t”

Drake gonna need to do Collab albums from here on out, his solo LPs ain’t hittin like they used to

HH080 said Word. Mans said hold his own when Drake legit stopped the record and posted a press release statement that was basically "hey guys this is getting too serious and personal" after the story of addion released.

Drake has held his own trading bars & subs w/ multiple goat level lyricists. Common, Push, Jay, Kenny. That’s not a light resume.

Push clearly won and had drake waving the white flag but he didn’t win on bars. He won with information and strategy.

Really dislike 21 "pu**y"adlibs....like there alot of them b

shooter said Drake has held his own trading bars & subs w/ multiple goat level lyricists. Common, Push, Jay, Kenny. That’s not a light resume. Push clearly won and had drake waving the white flag but he didn’t win on bars. He won with information and strategy.

Duppy had a great beat but that sh*t did not have bars

Like that Virginia Williams line. Mans said that corny sh*t with such confidence like it went hard

HH080 said Duppy had a great beat but that sh*t did not have bars Like that Virginia Williams line. Mans said that corny sh*t with such confidence like it went hard

Dumpy had some great lines. Father stretched his hands and got it from me. Man lol

HH080 said Duppy had a great beat but that sh*t did not have bars Like that Virginia Williams line. Mans said that corny sh*t with such confidence like it went hard

Duppy was hitting hard with truth if u ask me but the Virginia Williams line was completely stupid and he got what he deserved for pulling a man’s family into it. I actually don’t think push woulda pulled that wild card if Drake didn’t jump first.

shooter said Duppy was hitting hard with truth if u ask me but the Virginia Williams line was completely stupid and he got what he deserved for pulling a man’s family into it. I actually don’t think push woulda pulled that wild card if Drake didn’t jump first.

Eh. All mans was saying was "you might sell drugs but it wasnt as big as you said" and "you was one of my favorite rappers but not anymore cuz we beefing"

HH080 said Eh. All mans was saying was "you might sell drugs but it wasnt as big as you said" and "you was one of my favorite rappers but not anymore cuz we beefing"

Nah it’s deeper than that.

He basically said nga ur clowning me about ghost writing but I was just w/ you guys writing for your BOSS.

That whole sh*t stings because push is an elite lyricist but

A. Kanye is overlooking him and going to drake to write hits for him.

B. Why did a former fan & child actor from Canada bypass him to the point where Push is the employee and Drake/ Kanye the bosses

Duppy hit Push where it needed to but the critical mistake was mentioning that man’s lady at the end for no reason, which changes the rules of engagement. I guess he was trying to make ppl think he knew something or smashed. Goofy move. It was miscalculated and backfired badly.

It is a dope project

Drake's writing team is working extra hard this year

They need to unionize and demand more recognition

KING7 said Drake's writing team is working extra hard this year They need to unionize and demand more recognition

Bro is worth maybe $300m w/ 30-40 employees.

The “Drake” brand is not longer a person. It’s a huge company and I wouldn’t expect him to write every bar at this point. Just like I wouldn’t expect it from Jay, Nas or anybody else.

Rappers saying they write 100% of every song on every album is one of hiphops dumbest lies. It’s up there with rappers saying they write their lyrics in their head and never put pen to pad or type them.

This unrealistic sh*t is not expected in any other music genre. Music is collaborative.

NAKHI ALLAH said When his bars are up to par with pharohe, mos def, posdenous then I'll give him some credit otherwise he is only popular cause the masses are dumbed down

you're mentioning n*ggaz that would never be included in the GOAT conversation because it's only 7 people left alive who know pharaoh monche, or that posdnuos is the n*gga for de la soul. them n*ggaz aint sell

i hate your opinion cuz what it implies that everything that is, or could be great about hip hop has already happened, and we're living in this postmodern sh*tscape where we as consumers are just too ignorant to have any idea of what we want and the stuff that we like and agree to be good, actually isn't good, because it isn't like the old stuff

no different than good ol boys hearkening back and tryna revert society back to "the good old days"

n*ggaz k*ll me applying antiquated standards to modernity

Dodgers said Why would somebody gift another person a whole album. Unless they needed that person in order to make it street certified.

Maybe when the pen is too wild for it to be your own...

what i mean is...

I think as a creative is honestly easier to write for someone else cause it's a matter of filling in words to an image...ie: if this is an LA rapper i can write LA based sh*t, I can't never use that for myself cause i'm not from LA but it'll fit him.

Does that make sense?

shooter said Bro is worth maybe $300m w/ 30-40 employees. The “Drake” brand is not longer a person. It’s a huge company and I wouldn’t expect him to write every bar at this point. Just like I wouldn’t expect it from Jay, Nas or anybody else. Rappers saying they write 100% of every song on every album is one of hiphops dumbest lies. It’s up there with rappers saying they write their lyrics in their head and never put pen to pad or type them. This unrealistic sh*t is not expected in any other music genre. Music is collaborative.

I kinda felt what you're saying until the last sentence.

Other music genres aren't based around the artist being a WRITER. A singer sings. The voice, the harmony etc is the "instrument" they're playing/selling, hence why the writing doesn't matter as much.

A rapper is supposed to be a WRITER and an EMCEE. Most of which write about their lives/thoughts and or what's around them.

If it's really Terrell or Bryan from Milwaukee writing your sh*t then you're nothing but an image for the corporations (ie Vanilla Ice). So that excuse doesnt work with hip-hop and will never do.

shooter said Bro is worth maybe $300m w/ 30-40 employees. The “Drake” brand is not longer a person. It’s a huge company and I wouldn’t expect him to write every bar at this point. Just like I wouldn’t expect it from Jay, Nas or anybody else. Rappers saying they write 100% of every song on every album is one of hiphops dumbest lies. It’s up there with rappers saying they write their lyrics in their head and never put pen to pad or type them. This unrealistic sh*t is not expected in any other music genre. Music is collaborative.

He’s a billionaire, nicki herself said drakes the quietest billionaire because he doesn’t go running to Forbes or other outlets to let people know. His new deal is 500 mil, his stake deal is over 100 mil.. and then there’s real estate and his portfolio of stocks etc that obviously no one would see.. yeah he’s def a billionaire.

Drake's gay.

i forgot what song it was but i was playing a Jcole station on my apple musi and some random 21 song came on and i ssid to myself "Damn this sound like drake.." (in terms of flow) I didnt even know it was from their new album.

I still havent listened to that bullsh*t.

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I tried and just can’t do drake music

Even if he wrote all his isht nothing spectacular

He is a witty guy no doubt but easy to seem like some lyrical talent in today’s climate