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 2 days ago '16        #201
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 Kyu said
When they said “go up”, this was a reference to Elijah, who was Elisha’s mentor. Elijah was taken up to Heaven earlier in Kings chapter 2:11-12. This gang of 42 dangerous young men were sarcastically taunting, insulting & threatening the Lord’s prophet by telling him to repeat what happened to Elijah. Basically they were mocking God by attacking and ridiculing his Prophet, so they paid for it by being attacked by 2 bears.
I was re-reading that chapter in full and I noticed the translation difference too

King James version is referring back to an earlier part in the chapter when the prophet Elijah ascended into heaven. those kids, or how you explained a group of young thug teens, were mocking Elisha to ascend like Elijah did.

good catch tho

fun fact: Elijah was actually the 2nd person in the Old Testament to ascend to heaven without dying first. the 1st person was Enoch, a descendant of Adam and the great-grandfather of Noah (Genesis 5:24)
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 2 days ago '08        #202
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 BathWaterMelody said
we should all be "servants" of God just like kings/rulers should be servant to their respective nation.
nobody should be forced to do anything - especially in worshiping some ancient warlord without any evidence of even existing - because then it would be worship out of fear, not love - though, regardless, the lack of evidence is for me is enough to not spend my life wishing something into existence.

until there is solid, demonstrable proof of this or any other god - which isn't 'personal opinion' or 'revelation', because - as we know - what's true to you, isn't necessarily true to others (subjective) - i can't believe.

i cannot, and will not, believe in something based on hope, personal 'truth', or 'faith' - nor, if this god did in fact exist - would i worship it, based on the countless atrocities cited in the bible and acted on because of the bible, still, today.

you have every right to your faith, your belief - if that's what truly helps one in life, i'd be dishonest in suggesting you'd be better without it.
and out of the same respect, i'd like to think that you too would respect my position and right to not believe - regardless of how you may or may not want to recite bible verses, 'save my soul' or - as many all-loving people have suggested - commit me to 'hell'.

 2 days ago '16        #203
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 hollaballooza said
nobody should be forced to do anything - especially in worshiping some ancient warlord without any evidence of even existing - because then it would be worship out of fear, not love - though, regardless, the lack of evidence is for me is enough to not spend my life wishing something into existence.

until there is solid, demonstrable proof of this or any other god - which isn't 'personal opinion' or 'revelation', because - as we know - what's true to you, isn't necessarily true to others (subjective) - i can't believe.

i cannot, and will not, believe in something based on hope, personal 'truth', or 'faith' - nor, if this god did in fact exist - would i worship it, based on the countless atrocities cited in the bible and acted on because of the bible, still, today.

you have every right to your faith, your belief - if that's what truly helps one in life, i'd be dishonest in suggesting you'd be better without it.
and out of the same respect, i'd like to think that you too would respect my position and right to not believe - regardless of how you may or may not want to recite bible verses, 'save my soul' or - as many all-loving people have suggested - commit me to 'hell'.
I was just explaining the context, now you're taking one word from my interpretation to base your next argument of why you don't fu*k with Biblical religion.

that's fine b.

you're free to do as thou will

just understand that is your religion.

having "no religion" is a religion. that's your personal preference and principles that guide your individual way of life.
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 92baby said
I wish I can give vague answers like this in business meetings
Business meetings are all bureaucratic bullsh*t. The truth is simple

 2 days ago '10        #205
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 BathWaterMelody said
nah I'm okay.

I don't really like stuff from the Christian rap genre. I prefer hymnals and negro spirituals over contemporary gospel, but I will check out a new Lecrae track or Fred Hammond or Mary Mary from time to time

bottom line, I prefer dynamic innovation in my artists' expression versus the "gimme the same old, same old" backpack sh*t you blindly follow.



 2 days ago '16        #206
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 BlaccThoughtz said

"okay" is the correct answer

minus your feminine sarcasm.


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 2 days ago '17        #207
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 Exs said
Business meetings are all bureaucratic bullsh*t. The truth is simple
True

 2 days ago '08        #208
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 BathWaterMelody said
I was just explaining the context, now you're taking one word from my interpretation to base your next argument of why you don't fu*k with Biblical religion.

that's fine b.

you're free to do as thou will

just understand that is your religion.

having "no religion" is a religion. that's your personal preference and principles that guide your individual way of life.
non-belief is not a religion, it's like saying not playing tennis is a hobby - it doesn't make sense.



atheism is merely the non-belief in a god(s), due to lack of, or compelling evidence - just like how, for example, you don't believe in Thor or Zeus for the exact same reasons.

we're almost alike - you just believe in ONE more god than i do.
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 2 days ago '14        #209
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 BathWaterMelody said
I was re-reading that chapter in full and I noticed the translation difference too

King James version is referring back to an earlier part in the chapter when the prophet Elijah ascended into heaven. those kids, or how you explained a group of young thug teens, were mocking Elisha to ascend like Elijah did.

good catch tho

fun fact: Elijah was actually the 2nd person in the Old Testament to ascend to heaven without dying first. the 1st person was Enoch, a descendant of Adam and the great-grandfather of Noah (Genesis 5:24)
Enoch & Elijah foreshadowed Jesus ascending and believers ascending into Heaven in the end times, which we are currently in


The Apostle Paul wrote about this to the church in Thessalonica

1 Thessalonians 4:15-18

15. According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16. For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18. Therefore encourage one another with these words.




How Great is our God
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 2 days ago '07        #210
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 BathWaterMelody said
I was just explaining the context, now you're taking one word from my interpretation to base your next argument of why you don't fu*k with Biblical religion.

that's fine b.

you're free to do as thou will

just understand that is your religion.

having "no religion" is a religion. that's your personal preference and principles that guide your individual way of life.
No it’s not. That’s a null premise. That’s like saying “people who don’t collect Pokémon cards are no different than people who do because not having a Pokémon card collection is still hobby”.
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 2 days ago '16        #211
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 A-L-P said
No it’s not. That’s a null premise. That’s like saying “people who don’t collect Pokémon cards are no different than people who do because not having a Pokémon card collection is still hobby”.
 hollaballooza said
non-belief is not a religion, it's like saying not playing tennis is a hobby - it doesn't make sense.



atheism is merely the non-belief in a god(s), due to lack of, or compelling evidence - just like how, for example, you don't believe in Thor or Zeus for the exact same reasons.

we're almost alike - you just believe in ONE more god than i do.
wrong.

atheism is a religion that believes in no god.

it's a way of life.

you're saying it's not a religion like I'm not a vegan. I'm not on a "diet," I'll eat anything I damn well please.

okay then n*gga, fine

then that choice is your current diet. you'll eat any meat or by-product you want: poultry, beef, pork, cheese, etc.

having "no diet" is a diet.


religion[ ri-lij-uh n ]

noun
1.) a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2.) a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects:
the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3.) the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices:
a world council of religions.
4.) the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.:
to enter religion.
5.) the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6.) something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:
to make a religion of f*ghting prejudice.




you so busy trynna turn the word into an insult and you don't even understand what it means
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 2 days ago '07        #212
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Really dont care for the video, but whatever
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 2 days ago '08        #213
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 BathWaterMelody said
wrong.

atheism is a religion that believes in no god.

it's a way of life.

you're saying it's not a religion like I'm not a vegan. I'm not on a "diet," I'll eat anything I damn well please.

okay then n*gga, fine

then that choice is your current diet. you'll eat any meat or by-product you want: poultry, beef, pork, cheese, etc.

having "no diet" is a diet.


religion[ ri-lij-uh n ]

noun
1.) a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2.) a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects:
the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3.) the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices:
a world council of religions.
4.) the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.:
to enter religion.
5.) the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6.) something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:
to make a religion of f*ghting prejudice.




you so busy trynna turn the word into an insult and you don't even understand what it means
how is 'non-religious' this difficult a concept for you?

atheism isn't the 'religious' practice of worshiping no god - it's the rejection of it - rejecting a god isn't a religion, you're just making stuff up.



not believing in a god, nor being indoctrinated into a religion, isn't itself a religion.

it's like saying those who reject your god, must believe in another.

do you believe in thor? or zeus?

if you don't - why not? and do you consider the non-belief in thor or zeus 'religious'?


Atheism is the absence of religion. We don’t really need atheism. We just need to get rid of religion.





‘Theism’ means ‘belief in a god or gods’. Many ideologies have the suffix ‘ism’; for example, liberalism, socialism, and communism but, in the case of ‘atheism’, the ‘ism’ ending has merely been inherited from its root: ‘theism’. The prefix ‘a’ turns the meaning around to the negative, that is, ‘not a belief in a god’, so ‘atheism’ is as far from a faith or religion as it’s possible to get.




i'm also an agnostic - do you think agnosticism is a religion?

if so, how can 'not knowing' be a religion?

when i fill a form out, with my personal details, if it asks if i prescribe to any particular religion - and i write 'NONE' or 'NOT APPLICABLE' - how is 'NONE' or 'NOT APPLICABLE' religious?

the thing is, you seem to attaching this 'religious' label to 'a way of life', and i reject it.

just because you label something a 'religion', it doesn't make it so.


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 2 days ago '08        #214
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 BathWaterMelody said


religion[ ri-lij-uh n ]

noun
1.) a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2.) a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects:
the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3.) the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices:
a world council of religions.
4.) the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.:
to enter religion.
5.) the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6.) something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:
to make a religion of f*ghting prejudice.


also, you're defining 'religion' - not 'atheism', which is the 'rejection of god and/or a religion' - where in your definition is atheism mentioned or defined?



'especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances'

that's not atheism.

if you reject a god, due to lack of evidence, how can one be convinced of 'the creation of a superhuman agency', due to lack of evidence...?



'the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.'

atheists don't practice 'religious beliefs' such as 'ritual observance of faith' - faith is believing in something without proof, and i want proof.


Atheism is a denial of God(s), and if religion is defined in terms of belief in spiritual beings, then atheism is the rejection of all religious belief.




'REJECTION'

rejection isn't belief, it's the rejection of - if you REJECT religion, you ARE NOT religious.

hope this helps.



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 2 days ago '19        #215
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With All these passages u bible thumper fools stay posting and claiming they are the words inspired by god.....who makes that decision?

YAll do acknowledge books with words that have been “inspired by god” have been destroyed forever...who made that decision as well?

@ @ @Ex



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 2 days ago '19        #216
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Donda would be so proud man
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 2 days ago '08        #217
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 BathWaterMelody said
wrong.
Please provide a definition of 'atheism' which describes it as a religious ideology.

Because so far all you've done is post a definition of 'religion' and a*sumed it applies to atheism.

Provide proof of your 'atheism is a religion' claim - that isn't a separate definition of 'atheism' or 'religion' - or we're done.
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 hollaballooza said
how is 'non-religious' this difficult a concept for you?

atheism isn't the 'religious' practice of worshiping no god - it's the rejection of it - rejecting a god isn't a religion, you're just making stuff up.



not believing in a god, nor being indoctrinated into a religion, isn't itself a religion.

it's like saying those who reject your god, must believe in another.

do you believe in thor? or zeus?

if you don't - why not? and do you consider the non-belief in thor or zeus 'religious'?


Atheism is the absence of religion. We don’t really need atheism. We just need to get rid of religion.





‘Theism’ means ‘belief in a god or gods’. Many ideologies have the suffix ‘ism’; for example, liberalism, socialism, and communism but, in the case of ‘atheism’, the ‘ism’ ending has merely been inherited from its root: ‘theism’. The prefix ‘a’ turns the meaning around to the negative, that is, ‘not a belief in a god’, so ‘atheism’ is as far from a faith or religion as it’s possible to get.




i'm also an agnostic - do you think agnosticism is a religion?

if so, how can 'not knowing' be a religion?

when i fill a form out, with my personal details, if it asks if i prescribe to any particular religion - and i write 'NONE' or 'NOT APPLICABLE' - how is 'NONE' or 'NOT APPLICABLE' religious?

the thing is, you seem to attaching this 'religious' label to 'a way of life', and i reject it.

just because you label something a 'religion', it doesn't make it so.


 hollaballooza said
also, you're defining 'religion' - not 'atheism', which is the 'rejection of god and/or a religion' - where in your definition is atheism mentioned or defined?



'especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances'

that's not atheism.

if you reject a god, due to lack of evidence, how can one be convinced of 'the creation of a superhuman agency', due to lack of evidence...?



'the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.'

atheists don't practice 'religious beliefs' such as 'ritual observance of faith' - faith is believing in something without proof, and i want proof.


Atheism is a denial of God(s), and if religion is defined in terms of belief in spiritual beings, then atheism is the rejection of all religious belief.




'REJECTION'

rejection isn't belief, it's the rejection of - if you REJECT religion, you ARE NOT religious.

hope this helps.

 hollaballooza said
Please provide a definition of 'atheism' which describes it as a religious ideology.

Because so far all you've done is post a definition of 'religion' and a*sumed it applies to atheism.

Provide proof of your 'atheism is a religion' claim - that isn't a separate definition of 'atheism' or 'religion' - or we're done.
okay, so you don't have a diet then

whatever.

it's just a word, bro. take a deep breath.


atheism[ ey-thee-iz-uh m ]

noun
1.) the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
2.) disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.





religion[ ri-lij-uh n ]

noun
1.) a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe...




we can break agnosticism too if you'd like, but that's different than atheists who wholeheartedly believe there is no such thing as a higher power

they're on the fence about everything.

for example, some of the 1st agnostics of the early church believed Yeshua came to earth simply "in passing" and wasn't ever really human, but both John and Peter both quickly stomped out this theory and confirmed.

like no, this n*gga was definitely human, flesh and blood, skin and bone. we saw Christ physically, we knew him personally.
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 2 days ago '08        #219
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 BathWaterMelody said
okay, so you don't have a diet then

whatever.

it's just a word, bro. take a deep breath.


atheism[ ey-thee-iz-uh m ]

noun
1.) the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
2.) disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.





religion[ ri-lij-uh n ]

noun
1.) a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe...




we can break agnosticism too if you'd like, but that's different than atheists who wholeheartedly believe there is no such thing as a higher power

they're on the fence about everything.

for example, some of the 1st agnostics of the early church believed Yeshua came to earth simply "in passing" and wasn't ever really human, but both John and Peter both quickly stomped out this theory and confirmed.

like no, this n*gga was definitely human, flesh and blood, skin and bone. we saw Christ physically, we knew him personally.
You really have no clue what atheism or agnostic means.

You're just projecting.

Atheism isn't the firm belief that there is no god, it's the rejection of the claim of a god based on lack of evidence.

I'm not claiming there is or isn't a god - I'm asking for proof of the proposal - do you have it?

There could be a god, but until sufficient evidence comes to light (evidence isn't personal revelation or opinion), how can one possibly justify believing in something they cannot prove.


Atheism is not an affirmative belief that there is no god nor does it answer any other question about what a person believes. It is simply a rejection of the a*sertion that there are gods. Atheism is too often defined incorrectly as a belief system. To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.




I'll ask again - do you believe in Thor or Zeus?
If not, do you consider your non-belief to be religious?

You provided two definitions, one for atheism, one for religion - I asked for a definition for atheism that describes it as a religion or ideology - can you do that?

You dont get to just combine two separate definitions and a*sume they're identical.

I repeat - non-religion, is NOT a religion.


While there are some religions that are atheistic (certain sects of Buddhism, for example), that does not mean that atheism is a religion. To put it in a more humorous way: If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby.






Atheism isn't an ideology, it's a rejection of an ideology.
Atheists dont worship a non-god, atheists dont adhere to the practices and ceremonies a religious person one - there is nothing to pray to, nothing to worship.

Agnosticism is not knowing whether something is true or not, it's the default 'I dont know' position - everyone is agnostic towards something, even those who truly believe in a god cant be sure, despite what they claim.

Belief in something has zero impact on whether that belief is justified to be true.


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 2 days ago '08        #220
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 BathWaterMelody said
noun
1.) the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
The difference between 'strong' atheism and 'weak' atheism.










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 hollaballooza said
You really have no clue what atheism or agnostic means.

You're just projecting.

Atheism isn't the firm belief that there is no god, it's the rejection of the claim of a god based on lack of evidence.

I'm not claiming there is or isn't a god - I'm asking for proof of the proposal - do you have it?

There could be a god, but until sufficient evidence comes to light (evidence isn't personal revelation or opinion), how can one possibly justify believing in something they cannot prove.


Atheism is not an affirmative belief that there is no god nor does it answer any other question about what a person believes. It is simply a rejection of the a*sertion that there are gods. Atheism is too often defined incorrectly as a belief system. To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.




I'll ask again - do you believe in Thor or Zeus?
If not, do you consider your non-belief to be religious?

You provided two definitions, one for atheism, one for religion - I asked for a definition for atheism that describes it as a religion or ideology - can you do that?

You dont get to just combine two separate definitions and a*sume they're identical.

I repeat - non-religion, is NOT a religion.


While there are some religions that are atheistic (certain sects of Buddhism, for example), that does not mean that atheism is a religion. To put it in a more humorous way: If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby.






Atheism isn't an ideology, it's a rejection of an ideology.
Atheists dont worship a non-god, atheists dont adhere to the practices and ceremonies a religious person one - there is nothing to pray to, nothing to worship.

Agnosticism is not knowing whether something is true or not, it's the default 'I dont know' position - everyone is agnostic towards something, even those who truly believe in a god cant be sure, despite what they claim.

Belief in something has zero impact on whether that belief is justified to be true.
 hollaballooza said
The difference between 'strong' atheism and 'weak' atheism.








you quoted me twice.

THREE times the 1st time.

but I'm the one projecting?

Mr. "I don't have a diet, I reject the idea of eating patterns as a way of life."

okay, I hear you.

all that rass you posted could've been condensed to:

Atheism isn't the firm belief that there is no god, it's the rejection of the claim of a god based on lack of evidence.




yea okay foo, that right there is literally your choice

it's your individual set of beliefs, and I'm quite sure some others probably agree with you on it.

you need concrete evidence to prove the Father exists.

I need concrete evidence to prove He doesn't exist.

I get it.

I go high, you go low.. I get it.. I really do

but the truth is we both don't have jack squat when it comes down to that simple bar because us individuals who fear God know the universe didn't just spark itself.


the laws of conservation of mass & energy, as well as Newton's 3 laws of motion, build on the platforms of intergalactic intelligent design

not to mention, spontaneous breaks in molecular symmetry give much more valid support towards divine intervention.. not only in the cosmos, but also here on Earth on a daily basis.

God's Will floatin on wavelengths from 10 billion+ years ago that we just now detecting here and now








Issac Newton was a Christian btw

but never mind all those facts..
apparently Mr. "I don't have a diet" who trolling on boxden got more new insight for me than Isaac fkn Newton himself.


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 2 days ago '19        #222
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 BathWaterMelody said
you quoted me twice.

THREE times the 1st time.

but I'm the one projecting?

Mr. "I don't have a diet, I reject the idea of eating patterns as a way of life."

okay, I hear you.

all that rass you posted could've been condensed to:

Atheism isn't the firm belief that there is no god, it's the rejection of the claim of a god based on lack of evidence.




yea okay foo, that right there is literally your choice

it's your individual set of beliefs, and I'm quite sure some others probably agree with you on it.

you need concrete evidence to prove the Father exists.

I need concrete evidence to prove He doesn't exist.

I get it.

I go high, you go low.. I get it.. I really do

but the truth is we both don't have jack squat when it comes down to that simple bar because us individuals who fear God know the universe didn't just spark itself.


the laws of conservation of mass & energy, as well as Newton's 3 laws of motion, build on the platforms of intergalactic intelligent design

not to mention, spontaneous breaks in molecular symmetry give much more valid support towards divine intervention.. not only in the cosmos, but also here on Earth on a daily basis.

God's Will floatin on wavelengths from 10 billion+ years ago that we just now detecting here and now








Issac Newton was a Christian btw

but never mind all those facts..
apparently Mr. "I don't have a diet" who trolling on boxden got more new insight for me than Isaac fkn Newton himself.


U bible thumper aviod simple questions with so much deflection.

U typed all that but stay scared 2 this simple sh*t?

With All these passages u bible thumper fools stay posting and claiming they are the words inspired by god.....who makes that decision?

YAll do acknowledge books with words that have been “inspired by god” have been destroyed forever...who made that decision as well?


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Video kinda wack but the song is fire

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 hollaballooza said
nobody should be forced to do anything - especially in worshiping some ancient warlord without any evidence of even existing - because then it would be worship out of fear, not love - though, regardless, the lack of evidence is for me is enough to not spend my life wishing something into existence.

until there is solid, demonstrable proof of this or any other god - which isn't 'personal opinion' or 'revelation', because - as we know - what's true to you, isn't necessarily true to others (subjective) - i can't believe.

i cannot, and will not, believe in something based on hope, personal 'truth', or 'faith' - nor, if this god did in fact exist - would i worship it, based on the countless atrocities cited in the bible and acted on because of the bible, still, today.

you have every right to your faith, your belief - if that's what truly helps one in life, i'd be dishonest in suggesting you'd be better without it.
and out of the same respect, i'd like to think that you too would respect my position and right to not believe - regardless of how you may or may not want to recite bible verses, 'save my soul' or - as many all-loving people have suggested - commit me to 'hell'.
I don't agree with you, but I respect it. Peace.

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bet you didnt think in 2019 kenny g would be coming out your speakers



thats a cold blooded saxophone player
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