Eclectic said view image "The blood was in the water for Netflix's "Dahmer" well before the series hit the streaming platform on September 21, 2022. The awkward full title aside ("DAHMER – Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story"), the series should have been Netflix gold: it combined the streamer's knack for dramatic true-crime storytelling with the star power of Evan Peters and Ryan Murphy (Peters played the lead role, Murphy — who created hits like*"Glee" and "American Crime Story" — co-created and produced). Certainly, there's been no shortage of content about or inspired by serial-killers in recent years, especially on Netflix.* So why did "Dahmer" drop with such a quietly squishy plop? "Dahmer" did not received the traditional Netflix treatment, which is never a good sign. As Stuart Heritage notes in The Guardian, the lack of marketing and manufactured buzz for the series screams of low-faith from the streamer:* "Dahmer" just arrived. There was no premiere. No media were granted preview access, none of the show's stars were made available for interview. Unless you caught the perfunctory trailer that slid out online five days before the show's release, you would be forgiven for not knowing it existed at all. The show's ratings*are, so far, mixed, with audiences apparently being more receptive to the show than critics. Heritage describes "Dahmer" as "an almost unwatchably queasy show," noting that rather than focus on the victims or the impact, "Dahmer is undoubtedly fetishised" in the series, which "is unfortunately too infatuated with its star attraction."*But among the show's*biggest critics are the real-life family members of Dahmer's victims, some of whom are actually depicted in the show — and the experience, far from feeling cathartic, is*forcing them to relive the worst moments of their lives. 'It's cruel' view image Following the show's premiere,*Eric Perry, cousin of Jeffrey Dahmer victim Errol Lindsey, took to social media to voice his disgust with Netflix and the creative choices in "Dahmer." In a quote tweet that compares a scene from the Netflix series to the real courtroom footage from Dahmer's trial, Perry condemned the show, arguing "it's retraumatizing over and over again, and for what? How many movies/shows/documentaries do we need?" view image Perry further pointed to the lack of sensitivity toward the living, many of whom are depicted in the series — without their knowledge, let alone consent. As he explains, because the information is all public record, there was no obligation or requirement for Ryan Murphy Productions to contact those involved in the story, so his "family found out when everyone else did."*Using actual trauma for the sake of entertainment can easily cross the line into exploitation; as Perry states in a tweet, "Recreating my cousin having an emotional breakdown in court in the face of the man who tortured and murdered her brother is WILD." I can only imagine how violated and disgusted I would feel if I was Rita Isbell, seeing an actor dressed like me recreating such an intensely personal, devastating moment. The purpose of these courtroom testimonies is to find justice, not to entertain. It's frankly disappointing that, in 2022, we're still so callously fascinated with figures like Jeffrey Dahmer. According to IndieWire, the official word from "Dahmer" is that this wasn't the intention: The show's production team has defended the project, saying that the goal was never to humanize Dahmer but instead to show the perspectives of the victims and explain the ways that race and s*xuality informed the k*llings. Ryan Murphy's legacy view image To be fair — and blunt — Murphy has proven his inability to balance good taste and horror thrills over and over again. It's one thing for him to executive produce a true crime series that focuses on well-known and culturally significant court cases, and quite another for him to be given the reins on a project like "Dahmer." Murphy has had fun with real-life serial k*llers before: just look at "American Horror Story" to find countless examples. And no one has walked away from watching that series feeling like the content was handled with nuance and sensitivity. It's a show that's essentially made ostentatious brutality its defining feature.* Technically, Murphy has even adapted Dahmer's story before in "American Horror Story" (also the show that capitulated Evan Peters into stardom). In "AHS: Hotel," Seth Gabel played Dahmer for the*"Devil's Night"*episode, which featured notorious real-life serial k*llers like John Wayne Gacy and*Richard Ramirez (aka the Night Stalker — there is also a Netflix series about him).* I don't want to belabor the point here, but basically: there's a fine line between taking inspiration from a tragic event, and exploiting horrific (and relatively recent) history inappropriately. Despite the claims of wanting to highlight systemic racism or wanting to humanize Dahmer's real-life victims, the "Monster" series spends five hours painting an intimate portrait of its titular subject before shifting focus to those affected by his actions. It's questionable if Murphy already crossed that line with "AHS," but he definitely does with*"DAHMER – Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story." Read More: view image

Yeah Netflix has a bizarre fascination with Serial k*llers. Not watching that sh*t.

Twrecz said Yeah Netflix has a bizarre fascination with Serial k*llers. Not watching that sh*t.

I watched the first episode and didn't go back, too disturbing.

Prometheus said This may be a stretch.. but why don’t they just not watch it.

You dont think other people will mention it to them

Couldn’t imagine what family of his victims are going through and have gone through.

So don’t watch it.

Anyone claiming they romanticized him is wrong.

EZ Green said Going back to his childhood to try to explain the way he is the way he is is romantacizing. It opens the door for sympathy which he doesn't deserve

If you get any sympathy from his childhood, you need to get checked.

All I got from it was his mom was on whatever but his dad was always there for him and helped him find hobby's. He did everything himself. His father tried and ultimately failed, not due to his upbringing but due to the fact Dahmer was just fu*ked.

He had a supportive father figure in his life. Everything he did, it was on him, not anything else.

Fauby said If you get any sympathy from his childhood, you need to get checked. All I got from it was his mom was on whatever but his dad was always there for him and helped him find hobby's. He did everything himself. His father tried and ultimately failed, not due to his upbringing but due to the fact Dahmer was just fu*ked. He had a supportive father figure in his life. Everything he did, it was on him, not anything else.

So he was a sick individual. Woe is him

You idiots boiling it down to "Don't watch it then." Or "Why are you watching?" need to think bigger. They don't have to watch it to be traumatized. It's everywhere on the internet. People are for sure talking about it in public. People that know them probably have to walk around and talk on eggshells and that makes for an awkward environment. fu*k these shows.

Fauby said If you get any sympathy from his childhood, you need to get checked. All I got from it was his mom was on whatever but his dad was always there for him and helped him find hobby's. He did everything himself. His father tried and ultimately failed, not due to his upbringing but due to the fact Dahmer was just fu*ked. He had a supportive father figure in his life. Everything he did, it was on him, not anything else.

Nah both parents were selfish pieces of sh*t.

I've always heard of what Dahmer did to his victims... what i didn't know was how bad the police and justice system dropped the ball on this. Several times they should've had that dude locked up but they just went on about their business and made jokes.

dubsax said he didnt target black people out of hate, he knew that the systematic racism in policing would allow him to get away with it. The conditions in the community allowed him to blend in. If he lived in a white neighborhood there would have been no way he would have gotten away with the smell of rotting flesh coming out of his apartment for months. He knew he could hide in the black community. every attempt he made to a*similate in white culture he was kicked out of. Its really a story about the poor treatment of brown communities by those that own the property or are in charge via the law and law enforcement. dahmer's crimes were just the vehicle that shines the light on problems we continue to have today

Facts!

fu*k Jeff … why they make this BS …

Interesting to know how it happened bc i was a kid but if u wanna know just read a book or articles this DUDE DID NOT NEED A NEFLIX SHOW !!!

Damn Ronnie!

Another thread where people contradict what they say in other threads?

don’t watch it then…
it’s you & yours who raised a f*g who couldn’t defend himself & now he’s dead… better get over it

Dehone said view image view image The top streaming services have black stories all up and down those platforms. Every February, it gets front page promotion for the entire month. We have options. Nikkas choose not to exercise them and complain about liberal agendas But hey, we can buy Boosie's movies to stick it to the radical leftist, right?

All that "black movie" sh*t is trash.
Programming sh*t.
n*ggas eat it up because it has black face...

I mean
because it has black faces on it.

The jinx said I actuslly thought about that while watching this. I stopped watching episode 2. Its just too much gay sh*t and blood. I dont need to see that and its poison for your brain

I'm usually the first person to turn off some gay sh*t

But I understand this is who he was and what he was doing. Rather than some pointless gay stuff thrown into a show for no reason. So I don't mind

KJHARDY said I never knew how bad the police and justice system dropped the ball on this. Several times they should've had that dude locked up.

Me either

But it's not surprising. Always locking people up over some dumb sh*t, but let these mofos k*ll people and abuse children

CPS and the justice system is a joke

And they're never held accountable for their fu*k ups

I'm not gonna lie, I fu*k with True Crime sh*t heavy. I can see why victims families hate this kind of sh*t but for me I get a real kick out of watching these bumbling police officers. Serial k*llers really ran wild back in the day just because law enforcement was stupid as fu*k.

Honestly, I'm surprised the one victim that got away wasn't stomped out by the cops when they found him.

Watched all ten episodes and wished I didn’t.

F0RTUN4T0 said don’t watch it then… it’s you & yours who raised a f*g who couldn’t defend himself & now he’s dead… better get over it

This is an awful mentality

KJHARDY said I've always heard of what Dahmer did to his victims... what i didn't know was how bad the police and justice system dropped the ball on this. Several times they should've had that dude locked up.

Bingo!

It wasn’t until this series that I realized how fu*ked up the police and justice system was and how racist and homophobic they were.

If anything I hope ppl take away that the victims were done dirty by the police dept and share the blame with Dahmer. I believe that’s what Murphy wantwd to highlight with this series.

I’m confused as to why a family member of his victim would be purposely subjecting themselves to this show. You’re “retraumatizing” yourself.

KJHARDY said Nah both parents were selfish pieces of sh*t.

For sure. But when he was younger his father actually helped him. He said he liked dead animals so his father helped him learn how to do taxidermy etc. Helped him get his hobby going.

Was it a good idea? Nah, but his father tried at first to help him find interests so they can spend time together.

Most serial k*llers don't have it that good. He didn't even seem to be made fun of much at school either.

America loves promoting White serial k*llers like they are American heroes.

Then they wonder why other people do it.



Literally talking about Chris Watts every week.

klew said I'm usually the first person to turn off some gay sh*t But I understand this is who he was and what he was doing. Rather than some pointless gay stuff thrown into a show for no reason. So I don't mind

I mind a guy stripping off his clothes and dancimf then sucking on fingers like hes giving a blowjob

Jumbo Rondo said Im tired of the Dahmer sh*t too but this sh*t is good so

36:32 of the last episode was the only part i watched ...only part worth it