For this thread you can mention whomever and give your idea of why their career didn't go well.

For this post, I'm going to choose Rich Boy. Rich Boy was very talented IMO and could have been a voice of the 'New South', but I think besides the obvious of his main producer Supa Villain passing away, he was just TOO similar to T.I. and might have possibly been blackballed. You gotta remember, when 'Throw Some D's' was getting play on the airwaves, T.I. was blowing up the charts with tracks from his 'King' album which if I'm not mistaken, is his most successful album to date. I think style-wise they were just too similar, and since T.I. was already established, of course Rich Boy had to go. It would've been nice for him to have a longer run to see where he could have went in this game.

dude suffered from soundin like a cast member from fat albert

Rich Boy smoked both Wayne and Nas on Ghetto Rich Remix

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MegaTON said dude suffered from soundin like a cast member from fat albert

Who, Rich Boy?

Rich boy is a hip hop travesty honestly should have been big.


A blind man can see its some behind the scenes sh*t

No rich boy slander will be tolerated

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Throw some ds still a classic. Idk if him and polow had a falling out or something but they were a good duo, they shoulda stuck together (maybe this was what happened. Label shelved him or something, cause he wasnt on zone 4 for his album which he dropped like 7 years later). I'm wondering what was the real issue tho for real, if he dropped an album the next year and kept being consistent he had potential for a classic.

This is one of the realest songs ever

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Rich boy wasn't lyrical but he wasn't just a dumb southern rapper like some people wanna think. He could drop thought provoking sh*t if he wanted to

6Fraud said Rich boy is a hip hop travesty honestly should have been big. A blind man can see its some behind the scenes sh*t

He was a stupidass rapper that LOOKED like a star, but sounded terrible.

The south had allot of lyrical street cats back then, Rich Boy was just a bigol distraction.

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Don Trip & Starlito

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Don Trip had a Cee Lo feature on his 1st major track and was with Interscope

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Starlito was down with Cash Money/Young Buck, but had a buzz in Memphis

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They had bars out the South and good connects, but it seems like they got black balled for some reason

Trip never dropped a project with Interscope and Lito never caught the buzz he should have. Lito had beef with Young Buck, but that's still small compared to his buzz. They broke Kevin Gates

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Trip n Lito cold, this track is old

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Cam dissing jay who was the president of def jam k*lled juelz career

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n*ggas is playing checkers with chess-playing Hov This game is over, I don’t know if ya’ll know You in the hole

Gorilla Zoe - dropped 28 mixtapes in 28 days... (no one heard any of em)
NY in general - tryin to sound like young n*ggas/south n*ggas/chicago n*ggas/uk n*ggas etc - also is their only like 3 producers out there who do beats for fat joe/jadakiss/french? all their beats sound the same for the last 10 years, heavily quantized but still offbeat type sh*t
Famous Dex - too much drugs soon as he was gaining momentum
Lil B - overplayed his gimmick
Roscoe Dash - too many ppl jacked his sound before he could even really blow with it - to the point n*gga didn't even know what separated him from them n*ggas who stole his sound
Troy Ave - no originality, n*ggas was really tryin to rep for him cuz hes from ny or whatever but it got old quick
dave east - constant mids
g herbo - heard 1 song u've heard em all
blocboy jb - no more drake features
lil xan - he's billie eilish now

basically if u got over 10 projects/mixtapes/albums out under ur name and none of em blow up just make a new name - did wonders for 2chainz

that lil wayne "im just gonna flood the block" sh*t doesn't work if no ones interested

MegaTON said Gorilla Zoe - dropped 28 mixtapes in 28 days... (no one heard any of em) NY in general - tryin to sound like young n*ggas/south n*ggas/chicago n*ggas/uk n*ggas etc - also is their only like 3 producers out there who do beats for fat joe/jadakiss/french? all their beats sound the same for the last 10 years, heavily quantized but still offbeat type sh*t Famous Dex - too much drugs soon as he was gaining momentum Lil B - overplayed his gimmick Roscoe Dash - too many ppl jacked his sound before he could even really blow with it - to the point n*gga didn't even know what separated him from them n*ggas who stole his sound Troy Ave - no originality, n*ggas was really tryin to rep for him cuz hes from ny or whatever but it got old quick dave east - constant mids g herbo - heard 1 song u've heard em all blocboy jb - no more drake features lil xan - he's billie eilish now

I listened to all those Gorilla Zoe tapes...


A lot of filler in between those tapes.


Lex Luger gave him some dope beats though plus he worked with Sonny Digital before he blew up.

Plies releasing 2 albums in a year hurt him...

He should have took a break and released some mixtapes to hold the fans over. Funny how he did that with those On Trial tapes.

Da Realist was garbage compared to Definition Of Real too. It also didn't help that Plies got exposed by Jamie Foxx too.

ExNihilo said Don Trip & Starlito view image Don Trip had a Cee Lo feature on his 1st major track and was with Interscope view image Starlito was down with Cash Money/Young Buck, but had a buzz in Memphis view image They had bars out the South and good connects, but it seems like they got black balled for some reason Trip never dropped a project with Interscope and Lito never caught the buzz he should have. Lito had beef with Young Buck, but that's still small compared to his buzz. They broke Kevin Gates view image Trip n Lito cold, this track is old view image

Lito is content with not being a star...


He's cool with that. Remember when he signed to Cash Money and had him write for Wayne and Baby.


I'd rather be independent than to be signed just to sit on the shelf.

6Fraud said Rich boy is a hip hop travesty honestly should have been big. A blind man can see its some behind the scenes sh*t

Blame that on Polow Da Don...


Dude got bigheaded and burned some bridges.


Rich Boy's album and Gangsta Grillz tape used to be in rotation as a kid. Had a Andre 3000, Jim Jones, and Wayne verse too.

ExNihilo said Don Trip & Starlito view image Don Trip had a Cee Lo feature on his 1st major track and was with Interscope view image Starlito was down with Cash Money/Young Buck, but had a buzz in Memphis view image They had bars out the South and good connects, but it seems like they got black balled for some reason Trip never dropped a project with Interscope and Lito never caught the buzz he should have. Lito had beef with Young Buck, but that's still small compared to his buzz. They broke Kevin Gates view image Trip n Lito cold, this track is old view image

Lito and trip are still at it and cranking out heat…….

The D.O.C.

Both of all they solo sh*t go………..
But they definitely go harder when they rapping together.
Both stepbrother albums stay in rotation

ExNihilo said Don Trip & Starlito view image Don Trip had a Cee Lo feature on his 1st major track and was with Interscope view image Starlito was down with Cash Money/Young Buck, but had a buzz in Memphis view image They had bars out the South and good connects, but it seems like they got black balled for some reason Trip never dropped a project with Interscope and Lito never caught the buzz he should have. Lito had beef with Young Buck, but that's still small compared to his buzz. They broke Kevin Gates view image Trip n Lito cold, this track is old view image

1.Young Buck- Burning bridges with 50 by dissing him after he was paying his taxes for him. Running to side with Ja Rule and Fat Joe wasn't a good idea either.

At least Game could hold his own. Buck just sank. 50 took that boy's manhood when he revealed him crying on the phone.




2. Juelz Santana- Poor work ethic and drug habit.

How u gonna let Wayne lapse you?



Juelz should have also stayed sober. Nowadays, he's looking like a fiend. Even Cam doesn't let drugs get in the way of making money.


3. Boosie-

He didn't capitalize off the first day out of prison. Dude waited until 2015 to put out a album at the most.


Plus Boosie may have turned people off with his interview about how Black folks are the worst race ever. I think Boosie's LGBT comments may have gotten him blacklisted as well.



At the end of the day, Boosie should have stayed working with Mouse On The Track. That was his sound.

Hellmatic said No rich boy slander will be tolerated view image view image Throw some ds still a classic. Idk if him and polow had a falling out or something but they were a good duo, they shoulda stuck together (maybe this was what happened. Label shelved him or something, cause he wasnt on zone 4 for his album which he dropped like 7 years later). I'm wondering what was the real issue tho for real, if he dropped an album the next year and kept being consistent he had potential for a classic. This is one of the realest songs ever view image Rich boy wasn't lyrical but he wasn't just a dumb southern rapper like some people wanna think. He could drop thought provoking sh*t if he wanted to

"Preachers in that pulpit,
teaching all that bullsh*t,
so how you know it's bullsh*t,
same n*ggas I went to school wit!!"

Steve Gee97 said 1.Young Buck- Burning bridges with 50 by dissing him after he was paying his taxes for him. Running to side with Ja Rule and Fat Joe wasn't a good idea either. At least Game could hold his own. Buck just sank. 50 took that boy's manhood when he revealed him crying on the phone. 2. Juelz Santana- Poor work ethic and drug habit. How u gonna let Wayne lapse you? Juelz should have also stayed sober. Nowadays, he's looking like a fiend. Even Cam doesn't let drugs get in the way of making money. 3. Boosie- He didn't capitalize off the first day out of prison. Dude waited until 2015 to put out a album at the most. Plus Boosie may have turned people off with his interview about how Black folks are the worst race ever. I think Boosie's LGBT comments may have gotten him blacklisted as well. At the end of the day, Boosie should have stayed working with Mouse On The Track. That was his sound.

i remember a juelz interview where he talked about having hard drives of unreleased music (skull gang era so it'd all be 2007 and earlier sh*t) but nothin ever came of it, their was stories about max b/jim jones having hard drives of music too but who knows - back in 2007 a 120gb hd would've been a lot, 500gb/1tb is like the standard now

also boosie def shoulda stuck with mouese on the track

FrivolousSports said Cam dissing jay who was the president of def jam k*lled juelz career view image

Trip a full time single dad and took a break at the peak of his career to get family situation straight. Lito didnt want to play industry games, and sacrifice his craft for a bag. They have a cult following and can stay visible to core fan base to enabling them to consistently grind.

Kxng Crooked/Crooked I - him being signed to Tha Row which was already washed up and affiliating themselves with Tha Inc., most likely being blacklisted by Snoop, Daz, and Dre at a time when Aftermath/Shady/G-Unit were running the industry. Then the whole Slaughterhouse thing.

Always felt this song and vid was a carbon copy of "In Da Club".

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Jaye85 said Kxng Crooked/Crooked I - him being signed to Tha Row which was already washed up and affiliating themselves with Tha Inc., most likely being blacklisted by Snoop, Daz, and Dre at a time when Aftermath/Shady/G-Unit were running the industry. Then the whole Slaughterhouse thing. Always felt this song and vid was a carbon copy of "In Da Club". view image

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lol i think he liked it cuz it sounds like billie jean