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 4 months ago '09        #41
MakaveliToDon91 11 heat pts11
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 whothebestmc said:
they are comparing him to lebron this year, not 5 years ago when harden was a 3rd option coming off the bench. Look I'm not disagreeing that lebron is still better than harden but the points you are making aren't really relevant.
bruh thats what im saying. your comparing him to lebron THIS YEAR. if he makes the postseason THIS YEAR, and has another terrible performance THIS YEAR, with his team getting bounced because he underperformed in another big game THIS YEAR, then how does that argument benefit him? thats what its gon come down to. we all know harden will light it up all regular season.

he did this last year. whats it gon mean when he comes up short again? nothing. lebron wins championships homie. harden aint about that life. when the hell he gon hoist up a trophy cuz of a historic performance in the finals? lebron been there done that !
 4 months ago '11        #42
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 OGcambury said:
I disagree. Harden is a better passer than Lebron, he really breaks defenses down with the passing. The team is playing well because he is setting the table better than anyone in the game right now.
No he isn't, you sir are buggin.
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 4 months ago '11        #43
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 GGG goat said:
Curry and Lebron are third wheels now

Harden is carrying a bunch of scrubs on a nightly basis and destroying teams
Scrubs? Boy if you don't.....
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 4 months ago '09        #44
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 OGcambury said:
I disagree. Harden is a better passer than Lebron, he really breaks defenses down with the passing. The team is playing well because he is setting the table better than anyone in the game right now.
lebron breaks down a defense better then harden if we talkin dribble penetration. lebron is a much bigger threat when attacking the lane and that opens up shooters. houston shoots more threes then anyone in history so thats heaven for lebron. plus hes a more efficient scorer on the basketball court.

harden draws more fouls. lebron is a much better defender, rebounder especially offensively, and better in big games as he has proven throughout his career. hard to argue for harden.


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 4 months ago '16        #45
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I don't even think Harden has slowed down on the partying and he's still balling out
 4 months ago '09        #46
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 OGcambury said:
Lebron drives and kicks its really that simple. Once in a while he will catch a player cutting to the rim but you are crazy if you believe lebron breaks defenses with his passing. He is more of a passer like Westbrook. Even still he never put up a.ssists like Westbrook is now.
the cavs have a different offense if u watch the way lebron penetrates.

he opens up the offense in a way that he dishes it off, and the player that catches that pass dishes off the a.ssist. a pass that leads to an a.ssist, in an essence

this why i hate discussin this sh*t online. if you watch the game you see what goes down. when lebron is in the lane it opens up the entire offense. he'll penetrate, dish to kyrie, kyrie will have an open lane because of the penetration then dish to thompson for an easy dunk when the defense is forced to collapse on him

noone draws attention like lebron at the hoop. its common sense if u watch ball
 4 months ago '11        #47
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 OGcambury said:
Lebron drives and kicks its really that simple. Once in a while he will catch a player cutting to the rim but you are crazy if you believe lebron breaks defenses with his passing. He is more of a passer like Westbrook. Even still he never put up a.ssists like Westbrook is now.
Lebron is a better passer than both of them. No debate necessary.
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 4 months ago '04        #48
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people all over hardens d!ck right now, rightfully so, he is a great player, But we know LBJ is the best.
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 4 months ago '10        #49
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 GGG goat said:
...MVP and it's not even close! This dude's having the best season of all time...

He's great..

There's literally nothing he can do to be the best while Bron is still active though.

His lack of mid range game irks the f^k outta me too.

Watching the hou/hornets game right now..

I just saw him breeze past his defender and slash to the hoop with 4 n!ggas clogged in the paint.


It's the 4th quarter and I haven't seen him pull up from mid yet..

Dudes whole game is 3/drive/kick.

Still top two SG in the league though. Really just nitpicking for the sake of argument.
 4 months ago '08        #50
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 ChickzNKickz said:
You take away Harden, who do the Rockets have?
He won't respond to this. He's a known casual and a Harden/Rockets hater.

You take away Harden from the Rockets and it's basically the Pelicans without Anthony Davis

Harden's the only current or former all star on this team. We have good role players don't get me wrong. But he's the only star. Any other team with 1 star is a lotto team in this league. You need a big 3 to contend.
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 4 months ago '16        #51
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BX full of in the moment a.ss knee grows...... it's the second week in January, relax
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 4 months ago '16        #52
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 GGG goat said:
Curry and Lebron are third wheels now

Harden is carrying a bunch of scrubs on a nightly basis and destroying teams
n*ggas love to lie about the personnel around players bruh
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 4 months ago '16        #53
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did i jus see a n*gga say that harden is a better passer than bron?? wow some of you bx dudes are something else
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 4 months ago '08        #54
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 P.Merph said:
He's great..

There's literally nothing he can do to be the best while Bron is still active though.

His lack of mid range game irks the f^k outta me too.

Watching the hou/hornets game right now..

I just saw him breeze past his defender and slash to the hoop with 4 n!ggas clogged in the paint.


It's the 4th quarter and I haven't seen him pull up from mid yet..

Dudes whole game is 3/drive/kick.

Still top two SG in the league though. Really just nitpicking for the sake of argument.

Harden actually has a pretty good mid range game, but the system he's in doesn't want him to take those. Moreyball is all about 3's and layups, the mid range shot is the worst shot. That's not Harden's fault though.
 4 months ago '08        #55
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 Supreme God said:
n*ggas love to lie about the personnel around players bruh
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How many stars is Harden playing with? Name me another team doing this well with only one super star.
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 4 months ago '06        #56
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Wow boxden finally not hating on Harden?
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 4 months ago '16        #57
Supreme God 62 heat pts62
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 o7media said:
How many stars is Harden playing with? Name me another team doing this well with only one super star.
Harden doesn't need another star for the regular season, he'll understand that need once playoffs comes around trust me...but he has a VERY WELL balanced team...and unlike everyone else who doubted the Rockets before the season started, I didn't based off of the pieces they acquired, I seen that success was coming (maybe not this much).

Now who would be Hardens star? Eric Gordon is second in command, and he's coming off the bench...averaging 17.8 points. In comparison, the team right above them in the standings, The Spurs, who is their second in command? Lamarcus Aldridge, whats he averaging? 17.8 points, and he's actually starting, and probably won't be an allstar this year.

Now the rockets are perfectly constructed... most of his starting unit is averaging double figures in scoring. Now we know harden is challenged defensively, he has his moments, but he's not good at defense....that's okay now, because he has Nene, Capella, Brewer, Ariza, and Beverly who are all good defenders in the right system to focus on that themselves while allowing harden to do his thing. Add in the fact that Beverly and Ariza are not just defenders, but 3 & D players who can add something good to the offense, and Harden has a lot to work with. Now Ryan Anderson is Hardens version of Kevin Love, break down the defense and pass it out to one of your 3 & D's, or your sharp shooter in Ryan Anderson who hits it at an elite 41%. Add in Mike Dantoni's system which has this whole machine running well, and you have an elite team at your hands in today's NBA. Maybe people can start to understand the importance of a system, instead frowning on it like they do the Spurs. It emphasizes a players strength, like you said it takes away from Hardens mid range game, but it boosts his passing ability and other scoring areas....while San Antonio's system doesn't allow Kawhi to search for a.ssists or handle the ball as much, it emphasizes his mid range ability and post play.

Don't get me wrong, Harden is incredible and right now he's the MVP and should be.....but don't act like he's doing it alone, he has GREAT role players around him.


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 4 months ago '08        #58
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chris duhon average 15 and 9 on the knicks wth d antoni
you gon get your numbers in his system....

but yeah this n*gga still my mvp
but its not the best season ever, stats are HELLA inflated
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 4 months ago '08        #59
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 Supreme God said:
Harden doesn't need another star for the regular season, he'll understand that need once playoffs comes around trust me...but he has a VERY WELL balanced team...and unlike everyone else who doubted the Rockets before the season started, I didn't based off of the pieces they acquired, I seen that success was coming (maybe not this much).

Now who would be Hardens star? Eric Gordon is second in command, and he's coming off the bench...averaging 17.8 points. In comparison, the team right above them in the standings, The Spurs, who is their second in command? Lamarcus Aldridge, whats he averaging? 17.8 points, and he's actually starting, and probably won't be an allstar this year.

Now the rockets are perfectly constructed... most of his starting unit is averaging double figures in scoring. Now we know harden is challenged defensively, he has his moments, but he's not good at defense....that's okay now, because he has Nene, Capella, Brewer, Ariza, and Beverly who are all good defenders in the right system to focus on that themselves while allowing harden to do his thing. Add in the fact that Beverly and Ariza are not just defenders, but 3 & D players who can add something good to the offense, and Harden has a lot to work with. Now Ryan Anderson is Hardens version of Kevin Love, break down the defense and pass it out to one of your 3 & D's, or your sharp shooter in Ryan Anderson who hits it at an elite 41%. Add in Mike Dantoni's system which has this whole machine running well, and you have an elite team at your hands in today's NBA. Maybe people can start to understand the importance of a system, instead frowning on it like they do the Spurs. It emphasizes a players strength, like you said it takes away from Hardens mid range game, but it boosts his passing ability and other scoring areas....while San Antonio's system doesn't allow Kawhi to search for a.ssists or handle the ball as much, it emphasizes his mid range ability and post play.

Don't get me wrong, Harden is incredible and right now he's the MVP and should be.....but don't act like he's doing it alone, he has GREAT role players around him.

I agree 100%. I said in the off season that this was the best team and coach Harden has had since he came here because we finally have players around him that fit perfectly with a coach that fits Moreyball perfectly.

That doesn't change the fact though that these guys aren't stars. You replace Harden with Curry or Westbrook and they're not doing sh*t.

We're not even close to being stacked and Harden is still carrying the team every night. He's the clear cut MVP right now.
 4 months ago '05        #60
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