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Nov 9 - Is Bernie tripping or what
 

 
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 2 weeks ago '11        #2
Sin  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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is he really trying copping pleas for a president convicted of money laundering and corruption while also bad mouthing trump for alleged corruption

and the current president has potentially been linked to k*lling a Black activist





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 2 weeks ago '17        #3
ddy807 
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 Sin said
is he really trying copping pleas for a president convicted of money laundering and corruption while also bad mouthing trump for alleged corruption
it was a sham.

lula e inocente
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 2 weeks ago '17        #4
ddy807 
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 Sin said
is he really trying copping pleas for a president convicted of money laundering and corruption while also bad mouthing trump for alleged corruption

and the current president has potentially been linked to k*lling a Black activist



was at his house with the k*ller right before the murder.



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 2 weeks ago '11        #5
Sin  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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 ddy807 said
it was a sham.
they had over 100 politicians under investigation for corruption when he was jailed he was one of two presidents convicted

I definitely believe somebody was doing something
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 2 weeks ago '17        #6
ddy807 
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 Sin said
they had over 100 politicians under investigation for corruption when he was jailed he was one of two presidents convicted

I definitely believe somebody was doing something
last month:

Lula’s accusers are desperately trying to get him out of prison, while he insists on staying there until he’s fully exonerated.
THE SAME BRAZILIAN PROSECUTORS who for years exhibited a single-minded fixation on jailing former President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva are now seeking his release from prison, requesting that a court allow him to serve the remainder of his 11-year sentence for corruption at home. But Lula — who believes the request is motivated by fear that prosecutorial and judicial improprieties in his case, which were revealed by The Intercept, will lead to the nullification of his conviction — is opposing these efforts, insisting that he will not leave prison until he receives full exoneration.

In seeking his release, Lula’s prosecutors are almost certainly not motivated by humanitarian concerns. Quite the contrary: Those prosecutors have often displayed a near-pathological hatred for the two-term former president. Last month, The Intercept, jointly with its reporting partner UOL, published previously secret Telegram messages in which the Operation Car Wash prosecutors responsible for prosecuting Lula cruelly mocked the tragic death of his earlier this year, as well as the 2017 death of his wife of 43 years from a stroke at the age of 66. One of the prosecutors who participated publicly apologized, but none of the others have.

Far more likely is that the prosecutors are motivated by desperation to salvage their legacy after a series of defeats suffered by their once-untouchable, widely revered Car Wash investigation, ever since The Intercept, on June 9, began publishing reports based on a massive archive of secret chats between the prosecutors and Sergio Moro, the judge who oversaw most of the convictions, including Lula’s, and who now serves as President Jair Bolsonaro’s Minister of Justice and Public Security.

The prosecutors’ cynical gambit, it appears, is that the country’s Supreme Court — which two weeks ago nullified one of Moro’s anti-corruption convictions for the first time on the ground that he violated core rights of defendants — will feel less pressure to nullify Moro’s guilty verdict in Lula’s case if the ex-president is comfortably at home in São Paulo (albeit under house arrest) rather than lingering in a Curitiba prison.

But this strategy ran into a massive roadblock when Lula demanded that he not be released from prison unless and until he is fully exonerated. He wants to ensure that nobody — least of all Supreme Court judges who will rule on his appeal — feel relieved of their obligation to decide correctly by telling themselves that there is no need to take such a drastic step as nullifying Lula’s conviction given that he is no longer in jail but at home.

“I won’t trade my dignity for my freedom,” the former president proclaimed in a hand-written letter “to the Brazilian People,” explaining why he would resist efforts to swap his home for his cage as his prison. “I’ve already proven that the accusations against me are false. It is [the Car Wash prosecutors and Sergio Moro], not me, who are now prisoners of the lies they told Brazil and the world.”

In response, Deltan Dallagnol, the task force’s nominal chief and a prime subject of The Intercept’s reporting, insisted that Lula has no say in that matter: that if he is ordered to leave prison, he has no power to resist or reject the terms. So weakened is the Car Wash prosecution that, in a surreal spectacle, the prosecutors who worked for years and broke numerous rules to ensure Lula’s imprisonment are now demanding that he leave prison (albeit on their terms), while Lula categorically refuses to do so absent full acquittal of the crimes of which they accused him.

THE CAR WASH PROSECUTORS have good reason to worry that Moro’s and their gross misconduct could lead to a nullification of Lula’s conviction. Beyond the alarming-to-them Supreme Court ruling from two weeks ago, numerous developments reflect a newfound hostility to their work.

On Friday morning, Brazil’s largest newspaper, Folha of São Paulo, reported that the Supreme Court is moving to judicially authenticate The Intercept’s archive so that its contents can be used in judicial proceedings to review the legitimacy of the anti-corruption probe’s convictions. Meanwhile, President of the Court Dias Toffoli announced this week that the court will shortly decide several looming questions about Car Wash that could, by themselves, lead to an annulment of Lula’s conviction.


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 2 weeks ago '11        #7
Sin  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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 ddy807 said
last month:



THE SAME BRAZILIAN PROSECUTORS who for years exhibited a single-minded fixation on jailing former President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva are now seeking his release from prison, requesting that a court allow him to serve the remainder of his 11-year sentence for corruption at home. But Lula — who believes the request is motivated by fear that prosecutorial and judicial improprieties in his case, which were revealed by The Intercept, will lead to the nullification of his conviction — is opposing these efforts, insisting that he will not leave prison until he receives full exoneration.

In seeking his release, Lula’s prosecutors are almost certainly not motivated by humanitarian concerns. Quite the contrary: Those prosecutors have often displayed a near-pathological hatred for the two-term former president. Last month, The Intercept, jointly with its reporting partner UOL, published previously secret Telegram messages in which the Operation Car Wash prosecutors responsible for prosecuting Lula cruelly mocked the tragic death of his earlier this year, as well as the 2017 death of his wife of 43 years from a stroke at the age of 66. One of the prosecutors who participated publicly apologized, but none of the others have.

Far more likely is that the prosecutors are motivated by desperation to salvage their legacy after a series of defeats suffered by their once-untouchable, widely revered Car Wash investigation, ever since The Intercept, on June 9, began publishing reports based on a massive archive of secret chats between the prosecutors and Sergio Moro, the judge who oversaw most of the convictions, including Lula’s, and who now serves as President Jair Bolsonaro’s Minister of Justice and Public Security.
well the vote is up to the Brazilian people
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 2 weeks ago '17        #8
LostTenets  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x9 OP
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As a presidential candidate, you just have to know that sounds bad.
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 2 weeks ago '08        #9
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Bernie's never trippin... y'all put too much energy into misinformation instead of participating in the betterment of this sh*thole of a country by actually SUPPORTING the right candidates....,
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 2 weeks ago '17        #10
LostTenets  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x9 OP
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 Solitary Genius said
Bernie's never trippin... y'all put too much energy into misinformation instead of participating in the betterment of this sh*thole of a country by actually SUPPORTING the right candidates....,
So you think bernie is incapable of being wrong

 2 weeks ago '11        #11
Sin  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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 LostTenets said
So you think bernie is incapable of being wrong
I feel the country is that divisive party before country
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 2 weeks ago '19        #12
Stand Down 
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Is that Brazilian dude a socialist?

Top 10 most slapped recently  2 weeks ago '14        #13
strungout  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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rip Marielle Franco

they got rid of her fast



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 2 weeks ago '04        #14
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Bernie is definitely in the right on this issue. Bolsanaro is burning the Amazon to get the indigenous people out of there for corporate interests. Lula was falsely accused to make way for a more US/corporate friendly regime.
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 2 weeks ago '08        #15
Solitary Genius 
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 LostTenets said
So you think bernie is incapable of being wrong
its not about being wrong because nothing is wrong with being wrong...

hes incapable of being corrupted because how he structured his campaign financing model... paid for by workers and poor people at an average of $16/ hour...

this is why his policies have the most support, because they arent actually his policies its sh*t the majority of people in the country want... its why he has cross-idealogical appeal from socialists to conservatives

what part are you guys not understanding
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 2 weeks ago '07        #16
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 Solitary Genius said
what part are you guys not understanding
it's really strange, Bernie activates this social proof, status quo, cognitive dissonance in people who are scared of change


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 2 weeks ago '16        #17
Proveone  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 Solitary Genius said
its not about being wrong because nothing is wrong with being wrong...

hes incapable of being corrupted because how he structured his campaign financing model... paid for by workers and poor people at an average of $16/ hour...

this is why his policies have the most support, because they arent actually his policies its sh*t the majority of people in the country want... its why he has cross-idealogical appeal from socialists to conservatives

what part are you guys not understanding



 2 weeks ago '17        #18
LostTenets  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x9 OP
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 Solitary Genius said
its not about being wrong because nothing is wrong with being wrong...

hes incapable of being corrupted because how he structured his campaign financing model... paid for by workers and poor people at an average of $16/ hour...

this is why his policies have the most support, because they arent actually his policies its sh*t the majority of people in the country want... its why he has cross-idealogical appeal from socialists to conservatives

what part are you guys not understanding
Stopped reading there


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 2 weeks ago '18        #19
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 ddy807 said
it was a sham.

lula e inocente
trump e inocente
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 1 week ago '17        #20
ddy807 
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in august:
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 1 week ago '14        #21
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 LostTenets said
As a presidential candidate, you just have to know that sounds bad.
Shutup you're no better than @ with your fake outrage fu*k off.

You where boosting Warren's fake Med4All now you're trying to post a smear

 1 week ago '14        #22
Swade009  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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@ is a shill get him the fu*k out of here.


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