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 1 month ago '04        #51
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 Godric said
gotta say this just reaffirmed what I already thought that Rza is a huge reason the group drifted apart. .
there'd be no Wu without RZA...
and he made sure he signed a non-exclusive deal so all the members could do their own deals. .

.he just wanted to keep the Wu brand strong but all the other egos got in the way and they thought they were bigger than Wu. .

which I guess they were..but there was no loyalty. .


RZA had the focus and realization that wutang was a brand and most of the rappers aside from 2 or 3 were just sub par rappers. .

Thye came weak on all the wu projects after 36 chambers because they wanted their own shine. .

all are to blame..at the end of the day it was al about the money by all parties. .
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 1 month ago '17        #52
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 P DRILLA said
Great documentary. When they were all at the table and Cappa was like “I’m fu*ked up” and it got super quiet for a minute. sh*t
was real
It was a joke..." Can somebody lend me $5?"
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 1 month ago '05        #53
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 Usukaz2 said
It was a joke..." Can somebody lend me $5?"
To me it seemed like he said that to break the tension.
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 1 month ago '05        #54
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C.r.e.a.m.

 1 month ago '16        #55
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 mac58 said
there'd be no Wu without RZA...
and he made sure he signed a non-exclusive deal so all the members could do their own deals. .

.he just wanted to keep the Wu brand strong but all the other egos got in the way and they thought they were bigger than Wu. .

which I guess they were..but there was no loyalty. .


RZA had the focus and realization that wutang was a brand and most of the rappers aside from 2 or 3 were just sub par rappers. .

Thye came weak on all the wu projects after 36 chambers because they wanted their own shine. .

all are to blame..at the end of the day it was al about the money by all parties. .
Hi just because he was responsible for their success doesn't mean they were indebted to the point where he and divine deserved ti STEAL money

Check my thread in the hip hop section

Also. The w and iron flag are dope. The next two were kinda wack BECAUSE OF RZA
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 1 month ago '17        #56
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 Usukaz2 said
It was a joke..." Can somebody lend me $5?"
nah Cappa is a cab driver now.
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 1 month ago '17        #57
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 JarlesBronson said
Hi just because he was responsible for their success doesn't mean they were indebted to the point where he and divine deserved ti STEAL money

Check my thread in the hip hop section

Also. The w and iron flag are dope. The next two were kinda wack BECAUSE OF RZA
he didnt steal any money, the issue was always with his brother Devine.

Devine didnt give them any discount when negotiating as their rep.
Each person paid 15-20% the same as they would have if they each found their own rep. Like I stated in my previous post the issue came down to this.

If he negotiated 9 separate 1 million dollar deals for each of the 9 @20% they would have made 800k each while he makes 1.8 million that sounds fukd but its what they would have made from outside representation

Should Devine have given them each a better deal, sure, but they also should have taken care of him for doing time hustling to pay for studio time for them.
Raekwon didnt want him making sh*t. Before Devine stepped in they were selling weight for U-god

How much is a few years in prison and a strike worth to you?
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 1 month ago '16        #58
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 dubsax said
he didnt steal any money, the issue was always with his brother Devine.

Devine didnt give them any discount when negotiating as their rep.
Each person paid 15-20% the same as they would have if they each found their own rep. Like I stated in my previous post the issue came down to this.

If he negotiated 9 separate 1 million dollar deals for each of the 9 @20% they would have made 800k each while he makes 1.8 million that sounds fukd but its what they would have made from outside representation

Should Devine have given them each a better deal, sure, but they also should have taken care of him for doing time hustling to pay for studio time for them.
Raekwon didnt want him making sh*t. Before Devine stepped in they were selling weight for U-god

How much is a few years in prison and a strike worth to you?
Ghost sued for unpaid royalties and won

I'm not reading the rest of what u say. That's stealing
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 1 month ago '13        #59
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 mac58 said
there'd be no Wu without RZA...
and he made sure he signed a non-exclusive deal so all the members could do their own deals. .

.he just wanted to keep the Wu brand strong but all the other egos got in the way and they thought they were bigger than Wu. .

which I guess they were..but there was no loyalty. .


RZA had the focus and realization that wutang was a brand and most of the rappers aside from 2 or 3 were just sub par rappers. .

Thye came weak on all the wu projects after 36 chambers because they wanted their own shine. .

all are to blame..at the end of the day it was al about the money by all parties. .
There is a reason why he failed as a solo artist before the Wu Tang movement happened. He paid dude 400 dollars to make that logo that Rza basically is and will be caking off for the rest of his life. How much air time did Gza get? (basically none) Inspectah Deck? (basically none)............actually most of the group minus Meth and ODB got very little screen time in this documentary it was more like the Rza show feat. Wu Tang. Why would he let everyone out of their contracts except for ODB? Especially when it coincided with him getting out of jail? I didn't see Rza in the limo to go pick him up but they are suppose to be family and family bla this and family bla that Mr. Rza.

Oh and where do you think Rza resides in the subpar rapper conversation? Aside from 2 or 3 were subpar? Give me a break Method Man, Gza, Inpectah Deck, Raekwon and Ghost are more than 2 or 3 and they absolutely sh*t on Rza as an emcee.


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 1 month ago '17        #60
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 Godric said
There is a reason why he failed as a solo artist before the Wu Tang movement happened. He paid dude 400 dollars to make that logo that Rza basically is and will be caking off for the rest of his life. How much air time did Gza get? (basically none) Inspectah Deck? (basically none)............actually most of the group minus Meth and ODB got very little screen time in this documentary it was more like the Rza show feat. Wu Tang. Why would he let everyone out of their contracts except for ODB? Especially when it coincided with him getting out of jail? I didn't see Rza in the limo to go pick him up but they are suppose to be family and family bla this and family bla that Mr. Rza.

Oh and where do you think Rza resides in the subpar rapper conversation? Aside from 2 or 3 were subpar? Give me a break Method Man, Gza, Inpectah Deck, Raekwon and Ghost are more than 2 or 3 and they absolutely sh*t on Rza as an emcee.
Are you saying RZA is a sub-par MC?

 1 month ago '18        #61
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 Pretty Tone said
Outside da check cashin flashin dipped in fashion

[pic - click to view]

I thought for a second then chose, rather then froze, had the gymstar in my hand a what the fu*k yo

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 1 month ago '04        #62
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I wonder how many times they told Rza to "shut the fu*k up" whene'er he tried to make some stupid nonsense philosophical statement "when the man lived in the cave, entirely he had to walk out of the cave"��
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 1 month ago '13        #63
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 Usukaz2 said
Are you saying RZA is a sub-par MC?
Compared to the emcess I named? Absolutely. He is a far better producer than he's ever been an emcee.
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"You want a pound crab? Nah let his hand swing
I ought to punch a hole in his palm with these pointy a*s rings
No more said, knew your chump a*s was dead
When I saw the .44 reflecting off your shiny forehead
It's Wu-Tang n*gga, ain't nothing changed n*gga
Still Shame on a n*gga who tried to run game
Your version of perversion, fu*king bi*ches on Persian rugs
Washing n*ggas like detergent, it's the surgeon
Slugs propels from Bobby Steele's 12 gauge front page Daily Chronicle reads:
"Hell up in Gotham, take heed and protect your seeds"
You fall like autumn leaves
You lack tranquillity in your rap utilities to fu*k with the abilities
Race like a sperm cell to the ovary
Microphone post tone like a rotary phone, ancient poems of poetry
Old scrolls, explosive head bullets, black hooded, Timberland footed ninjas
With 'Full Metal Jacket' clips and know how to put it in you
Surrender your goods and your merchandise for no purchase price
I'm certainly a heist for your ice and curtains and vice
Come quietly, Wu-Tang Clan rules society
Because of variety, so maintain your high anxiety
?And lead them to defy me, diary, ya Irie?
I need 18 points on my next joint
This high anointed king to make a deal, I be the one to appoint
Steve Rifkind must have been sniffing
To catch something so dope it left Monica Lynch pu**y dripping
I fu*k hundreds of bi*ches and split millions of dollars
And built with thousands of scholars
My life saga from the hill to the harbor, legal 'caine grind like Nicaragua
I gave birth to MCs, thieves and bank robbers
We drove expens tryive whips and took worldwide trips
And my d*ck's been sucked by the finest lips
Fancy delicatessens and the world's best refreshment
But none of the above compare to the one-twenty lessons
Or my queen and my seed and the home that I rest in
Enter my zone get blown in 99 sections"
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 1 month ago '05        #65
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Ya'll snooze on Rza...



[Verse 1: RZA (Jamie Sommers)]
What the fu*k y'all birds talking about?
Get the fu*k out my house
'Fore I grab you by your hair and slap d*ck to your mouth
Bob Digi, yeah you know who is he
Girl, I fu*king slave trade your a*s like Kizzy Kinte
(But wait, fu*k you motherfu*ker)
You wish you could fu*k
bi*ch, all you can do is d*ck suck
(Your a*s can't fu*k, that's why your wife left your monkey a*s)
fu*k that, you don't cook, you don't clean, or press my jeans
You don't scrub or wash clothes
Or buy food for making (???), bi*ch
You don't read to the seeds
All you do is watch tv and smoke weed
Get your nails done and feet, scrub the hairweave
Sleep all day, eat, gain weight, can't breathe
Talking about you're going to leave?
Then bi*ch leave! What the fu*k you're waiting for?
Hit the door, I ain't taking this sh*t no more!
Spending all my cream on Gucci, Phillies and Coach
Before you moved to my lab, bi*ch, I ain't never seen a roach
Stains on my carpet, bathroom's more like a fish market
Take all the space in my closet, where the fu*k's your logic?
Disrespecting my old earth, aborted my child birth
And every day I catch my credit card inside your purse
You can't speak a sentence without a curse
Talking 'bout you're going to be a nurse
bi*ch, to be a nurse you got to go to shool first!
When I first met you, you was a ho
I tried to reform you, bomb you, warn you and teach you
But couldn't reach you, and you're still a ho
Your father said you was a ho
And when you leave me, bi*ch you're gonna be a ho
Celluloid and gargoyle feet, I'd rather beat my meat
That raggy a*s pu**y a starving dog wouldn't eat
Started with the body of a model
pu**y tight as a pharmaceutical bottle
And you could swallow a whole avocado
And two forty ounce bottles
To the end of the world, which to I would follow
Now, when I fu*k you, the sh*t echos cause you pu**y is so hollow
Turn your fat a*s sideways
Your stretch marks look like the US highways
fu*k a new n*gga every friday
Talking 'bout bust a nut, bi*ch I'll bust yo guts!
(You come so quick n*gga)
Wonder why I come so quick?
With that wide a*s pu**y and soggy t*ts?
I'm trying to get the sh*t over with, and go to sleep!
But when I'm with my real freak on the weekend
Bet that baby we fu*k for two and a half hours to three
You'd better study the 1-14 knowledge culture degree
About M-G-T, and G-C-C
[

[Outro: RZA (Jamie Sommers)]
But fu*k it, yo, let me get this fu*king phone
(Yeah, get the motherfu*king phone
Quit motherfu*kers in our fu*king
Business. End the fu*k, or I'll pull
The motherfu*king chord out of the
Man, fu*k that motherfu*king socket
Yo God, this bi*ch is bugging I'm sick of this sh*t motherfu*ker
Get the fu*k out, I'm throwing
All the sh*t on the motherfu*king
Terrace, right now. I'm sick of)
I'm on the phone! this sh*t, you and you sh*t out the
I'm on the phone! motherfu*king closet right now. My
Well fu*k you! name's on the motherfu*king [?] too
(bi*ch, get the fu*k out my n*gga, I don't give a fu*k, fu*k that
House man sh*t, you get the fu*k out my lab, all
These motherfu*kers sleeping in the
fu*king living room. My seeds run into
These motherfu*kers, these n*ggas are)
Yo, hey Hewey, hey Hewey in their dirty motherfu*king socks and
fu*k you, yo God, my bi*ch... sh*t. (fu*king dirty toilet seats and
This bi*ch is stupid man sh*t. My seeds gotta sit on this sh*t
Get these motherfu*kers out this
Give this fu*king crab a*s motherfu*king lab now.) Get the fu*k
Girl the gas yo out. (Every lat one of y'all mother-
You's a ho bi*ch! fu*kers. Get the fu*k out my lab(
Come on you's a ho!
You'se a ho Motherfu*ker don't make me pick up
You'se a ho this bottle. Don't make me pick up
You'se a ho this motherfu*king bottle
You'se a ho
Ho! ho!
Ho! ho! (Bastard! bastard!)
Ho! ho! (Bastard!)
fu*k you!
Ho! (You fu*king bastard!)
Ho! (Bastard! Bastard!)
fu*k you
Yo, yo, dunn, yo, yo, God
(Bastard! Bastard! Bastard!
She's stupid dunn you're fu*king dirty d*ck n*gga
Yeah you're fu*king stupid n*gga
You're fu*king stupid
You're fu*king stupid)
Call me back son (Now that's right, tell that motherfu*ker to call you back)
Call me back
(Cause you ain't going to steal this motherfu*king phone)


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 1 month ago '17        #66
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 JarlesBronson said
Ghost sued for unpaid royalties and won

I'm not reading the rest of what u say. That's stealing
no he didnt like the deal he signed, RZA got 50% as the producer and the other 50% was split between the mc's that appeared on the song.
150k vs the millions he made is an accounting error if less than 5%

U god tried the same suit and it got thrown out
They all had the same deal so if he "stole" from one then he "stole" from all and they all should have been awarded money but that wasnt the case.

Ghost's case came down to a different split on a few songs.

There are shady aspects to RZA as a person but a persons own ignorance is their problem.

Thats why in the end they can be salty about sh*t but it was the deal they signed.
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 1 month ago '05        #67
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[QUOTE=tokinjohn;49603799]Ya'll snooze on Rza...



[Verse 1: RZA (Jamie Sommers)]
What the fu*k y'all birds talking about?
Get the fu*k out my house
'Fore I grab you by your hair and slap d*ck to your mouth
Bob Digi, yeah you know who is he
Girl, I fu*king slave trade your a*s like Kizzy Kinte
(But wait, fu*k you motherfu*ker)
You wish you could fu*k
bi*ch, all you can do is d*ck suck
(Your a*s can't fu*k, that's why your wife left your monkey a*s)
fu*k that, you don't cook, you don't clean, or press my jeans
You don't scrub or wash clothes
Or buy food for making (???), bi*ch
You don't read to the seeds
All you do is watch tv and smoke weed
Get your nails done and feet, scrub the hairweave
Sleep all day, eat, gain weight, can't breathe
Talking about you're going to leave?
Then bi*ch leave! What the fu*k you're waiting for?
Hit the door, I ain't taking this sh*t no more!
Spending all my cream on Gucci, Phillies and Coach
Before you moved to my lab, bi*ch, I ain't never seen a roach
Stains on my carpet, bathroom's more like a fish market
Take all the space in my closet, where the fu*k's your logic?
Disrespecting my old earth, aborted my child birth
And every day I catch my credit card inside your purse
You can't speak a sentence without a curse
Talking 'bout you're going to be a nurse
bi*ch, to be a nurse you got to go to shool first!
When I first met you, you was a ho
I tried to reform you, bomb you, warn you and teach you
But couldn't reach you, and you're still a ho
Your father said you was a ho
And when you leave me, bi*ch you're gonna be a ho
Celluloid and gargoyle feet, I'd rather beat my meat
That raggy a*s pu**y a starving dog wouldn't eat
Started with the body of a model
pu**y tight as a pharmaceutical bottle
And you could swallow a whole avocado
And two forty ounce bottles
To the end of the world, which to I would follow
Now, when I fu*k you, the sh*t echos cause you pu**y is so hollow
Turn your fat a*s sideways
Your stretch marks look like the US highways
fu*k a new n*gga every friday
Talking 'bout bust a nut, bi*ch I'll bust yo guts!
(You come so quick n*gga)
Wonder why I come so quick?
With that wide a*s pu**y and soggy t*ts?
I'm trying to get the sh*t over with, and go to sleep!
But when I'm with my real freak on the weekend
Bet that baby we fu*k for two and a half hours to three
You'd better study the 1-14 knowledge culture degree
About M-G-T, and G-C-C

 1 month ago '17        #68
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Y'all n*ggas got links for everything... where the fu*k is it?
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 1 month ago '12        #69
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 JarlesBronson said
facts

I'm disgusted with Divine yo. RZA too. Acting like he was thr good guy and he let everyone out their contract so easily. That's bullsh*t
You can tell Divine is petty and cheap. Wanted to do his whole interview on his lil boat tryna feel like a big shot

At least he is being honest that he didn't want to let them out their contracts unlike rza

Rza saying "no one will care for odb they way I will when he gets out" you can tell he was nervous that people (Roc) were fu*king with his paper

And technically dame cared half a million dollars more than Rza
divine for sure is not trying to look like a big shot, he has kept his silence and hasnt said anything in 25 years, this doc is the first ever interview he has ever given
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 tokinjohn said
Ya'll snooze on Rza...



[Verse 1: RZA (Jamie Sommers)]
What the fu*k y'all birds talking about?
Get the fu*k out my house
'Fore I grab you by your hair and slap d*ck to your mouth
Bob Digi, yeah you know who is he
Girl, I fu*king slave trade your a*s like Kizzy Kinte
(But wait, fu*k you motherfu*ker)
You wish you could fu*k
bi*ch, all you can do is d*ck suck
(Your a*s can't fu*k, that's why your wife left your monkey a*s)
fu*k that, you don't cook, you don't clean, or press my jeans
You don't scrub or wash clothes
Or buy food for making (???), bi*ch
You don't read to the seeds
All you do is watch tv and smoke weed
Get your nails done and feet, scrub the hairweave
Sleep all day, eat, gain weight, can't breathe
Talking about you're going to leave?
Then bi*ch leave! What the fu*k you're waiting for?
Hit the door, I ain't taking this sh*t no more!
Spending all my cream on Gucci, Phillies and Coach
Before you moved to my lab, bi*ch, I ain't never seen a roach
Stains on my carpet, bathroom's more like a fish market
Take all the space in my closet, where the fu*k's your logic?
Disrespecting my old earth, aborted my child birth
And every day I catch my credit card inside your purse
You can't speak a sentence without a curse
Talking 'bout you're going to be a nurse
bi*ch, to be a nurse you got to go to shool first!
When I first met you, you was a ho
I tried to reform you, bomb you, warn you and teach you
But couldn't reach you, and you're still a ho
Your father said you was a ho
And when you leave me, bi*ch you're gonna be a ho

Celluloid and gargoyle feet, I'd rather beat my meat
That raggy a*s pu**y a starving dog wouldn't eat
Started with the body of a model
pu**y tight as a pharmaceutical bottle
And you could swallow a whole avocado
And two forty ounce bottles
To the end of the world, which to I would follow
Now, when I fu*k you, the sh*t echos cause you pu**y is so hollow
Turn your fat a*s sideways
Your stretch marks look like the US highways
fu*k a new n*gga every friday
Talking 'bout bust a nut, bi*ch I'll bust yo guts!
(You come so quick n*gga)
Wonder why I come so quick?
With that wide a*s pu**y and soggy t*ts?
I'm trying to get the sh*t over with, and go to sleep!
But when I'm with my real freak on the weekend
Bet that baby we fu*k for two and a half hours to three
You'd better study the 1-14 knowledge culture degree
About M-G-T, and G-C-C
[

[Outro: RZA (Jamie Sommers)]
But fu*k it, yo, let me get this fu*king phone
(Yeah, get the motherfu*king phone
Quit motherfu*kers in our fu*king
Business. End the fu*k, or I'll pull
The motherfu*king chord out of the
Man, fu*k that motherfu*king socket
Yo God, this bi*ch is bugging I'm sick of this sh*t motherfu*ker
Get the fu*k out, I'm throwing
All the sh*t on the motherfu*king
Terrace, right now. I'm sick of)
I'm on the phone! this sh*t, you and you sh*t out the
I'm on the phone! motherfu*king closet right now. My
Well fu*k you! name's on the motherfu*king [?] too
(bi*ch, get the fu*k out my n*gga, I don't give a fu*k, fu*k that
House man sh*t, you get the fu*k out my lab, all
These motherfu*kers sleeping in the
fu*king living room. My seeds run into
These motherfu*kers, these n*ggas are)
Yo, hey Hewey, hey Hewey in their dirty motherfu*king socks and
fu*k you, yo God, my bi*ch... sh*t. (fu*king dirty toilet seats and
This bi*ch is stupid man sh*t. My seeds gotta sit on this sh*t
Get these motherfu*kers out this
Give this fu*king crab a*s motherfu*king lab now.) Get the fu*k
Girl the gas yo out. (Every lat one of y'all mother-
You's a ho bi*ch! fu*kers. Get the fu*k out my lab(
Come on you's a ho!
You'se a ho Motherfu*ker don't make me pick up
You'se a ho this bottle. Don't make me pick up
You'se a ho this motherfu*king bottle
You'se a ho
Ho! ho!
Ho! ho! (Bastard! bastard!)
Ho! ho! (Bastard!)
fu*k you!
Ho! (You fu*king bastard!)
Ho! (Bastard! Bastard!)
fu*k you
Yo, yo, dunn, yo, yo, God
(Bastard! Bastard! Bastard!
She's stupid dunn you're fu*king dirty d*ck n*gga
Yeah you're fu*king stupid n*gga
You're fu*king stupid
You're fu*king stupid)
Call me back son (Now that's right, tell that motherfu*ker to call you back)
Call me back
(Cause you ain't going to steal this motherfu*king phone)
i remember the first time i heard this sh*t
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 1 month ago '09        #71
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Just started watching it today....on 3rd ep right now...dope doc already looking to what's next from Mass appeal...what y'all wanna see next?

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 P DRILLA said
i remember the first time i heard this sh*t
Word...I was a big big rza fan as a kid

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In Hawaii the lava alone make my d*ck hard
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 1 month ago '09        #74
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I'm jamming nothing but Wu this weekend

 1 month ago '09        #75
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Yeah I remember back when I was in VA I use to fu*k up that Wu wear store

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