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Mar 3 - 2020 Poll: trump Loses No Matter Who The Democratic Candidate Is


 
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 3 months ago '07        #51
A-L-P 8 heat pts
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 Solitary Genius said
First Socialist President Incoming
We already had FDR

 3 months ago '07        #52
A-L-P 8 heat pts
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 Topnotch said
Trump will win on default. Democrats are falling like Dominoes. No reparations No black vote. 2020 will be the lowest voter turnout for blacks in history.
I doubt it. 2020 is a high stakes election for us.

 3 months ago '07        #53
A-L-P 8 heat pts
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 Bonaparte said
I can see trump winning again...Dems will push for Harris instead of Gabbard or Bernie
If Dems push for Harris then Trump will win. A Biden/Bernie ticket is the best bet for victory since they’re the two most popular democrat politicians. Maybe even Bloomberg.

The Dems are going to need a centrist who can appeal to independents and the working class and a progressive candidate as VP who can get the young millennial votes.


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 3 months ago '07        #54
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 dc3003 said
This doesnt bother you ?

The stats in the meme don’t tell the full story. What they’re leaving out is the democrat states that voted no were former confederate southern states. Back then, southern states were blue states, in 2019 they’re mostly red states.

People like Charlie Clark, Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Prager U, etc are always extremely intellectually dishonest about these topics. They bank on the fact that they’re pushing their misinfo to people who are 1) not well versed in history 2) people who will blindly accept any info that isn’t constantly telling them their ideology is on the wrong side of history (socially speaking)


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 4 days ago '10        #55
Bandito 228 heat pts228 OP
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Donald Trump has claimed a wave of new polling from the 2020 presidential campaign season is fake after recent surveys showed every major Democrat vying for the White House besting the president in the upcoming election.

“The Fake News has never been more dishonest than it is today,” the president began in a series of Wednesday morning tweets. “There new weapon of choice is Fake Polling, sometimes referred to as Suppression Polls (they suppress the numbers).”

“The Fake (Corrupt) News Media said they had a leak into polling done by my campaign which, by the way and despite the phony and never ending Witch Hunt, are the best numbers WE have ever had,” he continued, addressing reports from Tuesday that said he had instructed his aides to deny internal polling data that showed former Vice President Joe Biden beating him in 2020.

“They reported Fake numbers that they made up & don’t even exist,” Mr Trump wrote. “WE WILL WIN AGAIN!”

The president’s comments came after a Quinnipiac University poll released this week showed head-to-head matchups against him and several leading 2020 Democrats.

Mr Trump trailed Mr Biden — the clear frontrunner thus far in the Democratic primaries — by a whopping 13 per cent, while Bernie Sanders, Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren and others all held strong advantages as well.

His remarks also came after a New York Times story looked at internal polling conducted by Tony Fabrizio across 17 states, reportedly showing Mr Trump trailing the former vice president in several key states for his re-election.

Despite his claims of “fake polling,” a vast range of surveys conducted by a variety of news organisations, polling groups and universities show the president losing against his top opponents time and time again.

In fact, Mr Trump even falls behind Mr Biden in the deeply red state of Texas, where another Quinnipiac University poll conducted last week showed the former vice president four points ahead of him.

Shortly after posting the tweets about alleged false polling, Mr Trump retweeted his post from Monday touting a 50 per cent approval rating according to Rasmussen.

The remarks also arrived a day after Mr Trump and Mr Biden held duelling rallies in Iowa, in which the president referred to Mr Biden as a “dummy” and the former vice president referred to Mr Trump as an “existential threat.”

 4 days ago '06        #56
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 dc3003 said
This doesnt bother you ?

Look at the map tho and tel me whether it was a red vs blue or a north vs south issue.

Hint: it was north vs south

 4 days ago '18        #57
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 1000bluntz said
Sure, I mean the polls were so totally accurate the last time...
In 2018, yes. Yes they largely were.
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 4 days ago '10        #58
Frasier 246 heat pts246
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Whoever did this poll is completely out of touch with the realities of life.
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 4 days ago '04        #59
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I was reviewing the Quinnpac poll that is often cited and something seemed to jump out.



All of the Dems seem to be winning the Independent vote by 20-30%. History tells us that those numbers may not be an accurate reflection of the real Independent split.

Trump vs Hillary (Trump +6)
Obama vs Romney (Romney +5)
Obama vs McCain (Obama +8)
Bush vs Kerry (Kerry +1)

Something tells me these "Trump Losing Vs Everyone" numbers are either extremely inaccurate or fudged to make Trump look worse than reality.


If it is actually closer than listed (for an example we cut the actual Independent deferential in half) Trump would be up vs everyone.

 4 days ago '06        #60
Skateboard T 53 heat pts53
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 abacabb said
I was reviewing the Quinnpac poll that is often cited and something seemed to jump out.



All of the Dems seem to be winning the Independent vote by 20-30%. History tells us that those numbers may not be an accurate reflection of the real Independent split.

Trump vs Hillary (Trump +6)
Obama vs Romney (Romney +5)
Obama vs McCain (Obama +8)
Bush vs Kerry (Kerry +1)

Something tells me these "Trump Losing Vs Everyone" numbers are either extremely inaccurate or fudged to make Trump look worse than reality.


If it is actually closer than listed (for an example we cut the actual Independent deferential in half) Trump would be up vs everyone.
Yeah and if you gave the jazz two games Michael would only have 5 rings.

Whatís your point? Nothing you said supports your premise...

 4 days ago '08        #61
supervillain 267 heat pts267
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 Ymmot said
I'm pretty sure there will be a big black turnout against trump

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 4 days ago '10        #62
Bandito 228 heat pts228 OP
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 abacabb said
I was reviewing the Quinnpac poll that is often cited and something seemed to jump out.



All of the Dems seem to be winning the Independent vote by 20-30%. History tells us that those numbers may not be an accurate reflection of the real Independent split.

Trump vs Hillary (Trump +6)
Obama vs Romney (Romney +5)
Obama vs McCain (Obama +8)
Bush vs Kerry (Kerry +1)

Something tells me these "Trump Losing Vs Everyone" numbers are either extremely inaccurate or fudged to make Trump look worse than reality.


If it is actually closer than listed (for an example we cut the actual Independent deferential in half) Trump would be up vs everyone.
You believe the numbers for Independents in those other elections and have doubts about them now. What has created that doubt?

 4 days ago '04        #63
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 Skateboard T said
Yeah and if you gave the jazz two games Michael would only have 5 rings.

What’s your point? Nothing you said supports your premise...
If no one has ever won +20 of Independents in a Presidential election then why would a poll that shows every candidate winning by such a large margin not be (at minimum) scrutinized?

I cut it in half (and +10-15 still would be a landslide w/ indie votes) just to show that the poll outcome/narrative would be significantly different.


I am not saying it is impossible, just improbable.


 Bandito said
You believe the numbers for Independents in those other elections and have doubts about them now. What has created that doubt?
Those were from final results. It is to show the extreme variance in the Indie vote in the recent poll.


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 4 days ago '04        #64
adthekidd 16 heat pts16
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If they pick Biden

prepare for another 4 years of Trump

 4 days ago '15        #65
PineappleOG 47 heat pts47
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He is going to lose, people just tired. People are tired of politics and tired of this clown always being talked about, it gets old, and has been old. No one cares for trump and people who would vote for him barely care.
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 4 days ago '17        #66
Tom Herman 375 heat pts375
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Trump is winning. Dems have no chance. It's going to be warren but in the slight chance it's biden or harris, he will win by even more

 4 days ago '18        #67
Juliette DaBlok 21 heat pts21
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 Tom Herman said
Trump is winning. Dems have no chance. It's going to be warren but in the slight chance it's biden or harris, he will win by even more
How long did you cry when you found out NBA YB was gonna spend the next decade in Angola

 4 days ago '17        #68
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 Juliette DaBlok said
How long did you cry when you found out NBA YB was gonna spend the next decade in Angola
As long as you did when you found out trump got elected

 4 days ago '19        #69
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