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Jim Jackson: Larry Bird was not transformational player


 


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 5 days ago '16        #76
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How do yall watch coonlock?

 5 days ago '10        #77
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 Screendoorservn said
He was good passer considering how ball dominant he was averaging 6 a.ssists a game. But he also averaged almost 4 turnovers.

I never saw the bird hype. Even after watching old hardwood classics and highlights.

I donít think he was a transformational player at all. He was a great player for his era with an unorthodox style of play. He not even top 35 all time scores. At least the people we're comparing him to are on that list.
He didn't play as long as some of the other guys.

 5 days ago '04        #78
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 trill jackson said
Leave Larry alone dude actually underrated. When he played him and magic were neck and neck now they talk about magic all day and hardly mention bird
Bird is definitely not underrated
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 5 days ago '06        #79
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 mlbnba2016 said
Transformational Players in terms of position are:
PG-MAGIC JOHNSON
SG-MICHAEL JORDAN
SF-LEBRON JAMES
PF-DIRK NOWITZI
C-KAREEM

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Dirk?

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 imthatinfamous said
Dirk?
YA FOOL AND WHAT?



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 5 days ago '06        #81
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 mlbnba2016 said
YA FOOL AND WHAT?



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over KG?

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 imthatinfamous said
over KG?
YES OVER KG



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 5 days ago '09        #83
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 therealbkh said
How you gonna say something stupid like that and one of those dudes has a whole damn shoe company from the things he did on that court. A human logo.
Talking on the court. Stay focused grasshopper

 5 days ago '09        #84
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 Screendoorservn said
Name one player thatís not popular thatís won MVP.

 5 days ago '09        #85
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 Screendoorservn said
You have it all wrong my friend. We remember a lot of players that donít come from winning franchises. (Tmac, Vince carter, chuck etc...)

and you should care about big men who hit the 3. Look at todayís NBA, look how almost every team has a stretch 4/5 dirk started this era big man basketball.
Big men shot the 3 before Dirk came along. If were giving Dirk the credit we might as well give my guy Scoe half of it since he was right there with him and shooting them too.

 5 days ago '17        #86
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Bird couldnt jump over a folded sheet of paper. n*gga took speed and couldn't outrun a snail on weed. But give homey a basketball and it's a wrap

 5 days ago '05        #87
Hold That 107 heat pts107
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He’s 100%. Larry didn’t have extreme athletic ability he wasn’t fast and he wasnt tall or long for his position. He had great IQ and maximized his potential to the fullest extent. Most players never do.

 5 days ago '17        #88
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How is Kobe not a transformational player?

 5 days ago '11        #89
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You could have really had bx riled up if you told them he said kobe wasn't transformational too at the end of the clip

 5 days ago '06        #90
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bird was one the greatest basketball players to play...he had weak defense but was great shooter and was clutch..i don't think he was transition player...I think he was the 2nd most popular player in the 80s...

 5 days ago '05        #91
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Jimmy Jackson needs to find a new gig

 5 days ago '06        #92
marcusaka50 62 heat pts62
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i think transitional players are players who came in the nba with their own style or a style that wasn't dominate at the time...MJ,kareem,lebron,magic,curry,shaq.....for me the only transitional players

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 marcusaka50 said
i think transitional players are players who came in the nba with their own style or a style that wasn't dominate at the time...MJ,kareem,lebron,magic,curry,shaq.....for me the only transitional players
Lebron plays like Magic.

 5 days ago '06        #94
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 Xperia said
Lebron plays like Magic.
magic doesn't play like lebron...lebron played small forward...magic actually played the point guard position...lebron played like a point forward...

 5 days ago '18        #95
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 marcusaka50 said
magic doesn't play like lebron...lebron played small forward...magic actually played the point guard position...lebron played like a point forward...
They play exactly alike. The only thing different is the name of their position and of course Lebron's physical attributes.

 5 days ago '06        #96
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 Xperia said
They play exactly alike. The only thing different is the name of their position and of course Lebron's physical attributes.
its fair argument....lebron dominated a different way and won championships a different way than magic....which makes him a transitional player to me.. you have to dominate at will....and he did that.

 5 days ago '18        #97
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 marcusaka50 said
its fair argument....lebron dominated a different way and won championships a different way than magic....which makes him a transitional player to me.. you have to dominate at will....and he did that.
In what different way? He passed, shot, rebounded, and hit clutch shots just like magic. It may look different because of Lebron's size but it's not really different at all. Also Bron didn't exactly dominate. He has 3 rings in 7 or 8 finals appearances. Unless you're talking about stats.

 5 days ago '06        #98
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 Xperia said
In what different way? He passed, shot, rebounded, and hit clutch shots just like magic. It may look different because of Lebron's size but it's not really different at all. Also Bron didn't exactly dominate. He has 3 rings in 7 or 8 finals appearances. Unless you're talking about stats.
lebron wanted to have shooters with no post player...magic won it with a all-time post player....lebron relied more on his athleticism and strength than magicwhen it came to scoring...magic was more finesse...magic has a better handle....magic might be a better free throw shooter than lebron...magic is a better post player...lebron is a better shooter than magic...magic and lebron play similar but they just have similar abilities but don't 100% play the same..lebron dominated one on one ....team wise he didn't get it done...

 5 days ago '05        #99
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how the fu*k is whitlock still on television?

 5 days ago '18        #100
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 marcusaka50 said
lebron wanted to have shooters with no post player...magic won it with a all-time post player....lebron relied more on his athleticism and strength than magicwhen it came to scoring...magic was more finesse...magic has a better handle....magic might be a better free throw shooter than lebron...magic is a better post player...lebron is a better shooter than magic...magic and lebron play similar but they just have similar abilities but don't 100% play the same..lebron dominated one on one ....team wise he didn't get it done...
You're playing semantics. They play alike. Lebron plays like Magic on steroids. It's another Kobe & MJ situation. He simply built upon something Magic already laid the groundwork for

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