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Kobe vs Jordan vs LeBron vs Durant - discussion thread (will be merged here)


 


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 8 years ago '10        #101
MexicanKingPin 4 heat pts
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kobe's the poor man's michael jordan

 8 years ago '10        #102
GriffMcfly 22 heat pts22
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WAIT........

 8 years ago '07        #103
Cambury 40 heat pts40
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 WiLL i AM said
yo on some real sh*t. we should all have a thread poll for Mods to get on their a.ss and delete bullsh*t like this. like i know Ronnie is seeing this sh*t. but this sh*t is too much. why isnt their one stickied thread period? like this sh*ts been goin on for how many years almost on a daily basis like really Ronnie? come on fam
im smack fire out ya a.ss when I catch u niggggaaaaa

 8 years ago '04        #104
GollyI'mGully 69 heat pts69
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 iPod160 said
look, MJ is the GOAT. Kobe had shaq for those first few rings..MJ had Bill Cartwright in the middle. In effect, Kobe was the Scottie Pippen of those first few rings for LA. It is what it is...
 SiekaSiklo said
n*gga are you serious smh wasn't there a thread earlier that showed their stats and awards won between the two if you saw that and still think kobe's better then you're fu*king retarded

Kobe's great but MJ is mos def better without a doubt
 BrodyMACaroni said
MJ > Kobe

 Youngray22 said
stop it No1 outside of Kobe stans and Bryon Russell stans(lol) will agree with you.

There's no argument MJ is goat Kobe isn't. Just stop.

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 8 years ago '07        #105
JAY-H 2 heat pts
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I'm pretty sure dude said kobe is as good as not >>> jordan

 8 years ago '04        #106
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 marcusaka50 said
Kobe is as good as MJ. If you dont believe this you are a hater. Only thing Kobe has over Mike is probably a better 3pt shot but Kobe isnt a great 3pt shooter so who gives a sh*t. If he was so great at it people would talk about it. Nobody could stop them one on one indivdually in their era. We will never see them play each other in their prime. Only thing you going to argue is stats and achievements. Lets be real is that the only way to prove who is greater player between these two or is it proving who is the greater achiever?

There is only one way to prove who's better in any competition and its going one on one in their prime. No matter if you switch them from each other's era they would still dominate from a offensive and defensive stand point. Kobe/MJ had no competition indivdually but both needed great teams to win chips. The only reason Mike dominated his era he kept his championship team together for 6 and Kobe kept his for 3.
So....Kobe Kids\Stans have given up on him being better than MJ, now they resort to him being just as good, huh?


The answer is........NO!


Now with that being said, haven't done this in a while so let me get this off my chest.....
















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 8 years ago '11        #107
eucalyptus 30 heat pts30
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 8 years ago '04        #108
erickonasis 22 heat pts22
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thread is sh*t


Kobe is BETTER than Jordan

 8 years ago '06        #109
aussie08 4 heat pts
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Even if Kobe is as good as Jordan, which i dont believe. He wouldnt have never gotten that good w/o Jordan. Kobe whole style is Jordan, down to the way he talks. Kobes whole career is just trying to 1 up Jordan. Jordan did it first, he did everything first, kobe can never be better than Jordan!

 8 years ago '06        #110
philly337 26 heat pts26
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No....

aight let's end this s**t once and for all cause yall make me sick with ur lack of knowledge about the game the s**t ain't even debateable.First off kobe just finished his 14th season..everything jordan did was 13 with the bulls and in 2 he only played 17 and 18 games and not eligible for any awards so really played 11..now let's break the s**t down....



jordan 6 rings / kobe 5 rings (6-0 vs 5-2)


jordan 6 finals mvps / kobe 2 finals mvps


jordan 5 mvps / kobe 1 mvp (jordan could have won every year..kobe's belongs to chris paul)


jordan 10 scoring titles / kobe 2 scoring titles


jordan 1 dpoy / kobe 0 dpoy


jordan league lead in steals 3 times / kobe never has


jordan rookie of the year / kobe nope


10 all nba first teams / kobe 8 time all nba first teams


9 all defensive first teams / kobe 8 time all defensive first team (and don't even get me started on this)



pause here..this is pretty much all awards possible that have any meaning and he does not have 1....not 1 f**kin thing more then jordan and is only tied in one (defensive teams) which he doesn't deserve half lol..now let's move on to the statline....



jordan with the bulls...31.5 ppg,6.3 rpg,5.4 apg,2.5 spg,0.9 bpg,.51% fg%,33% 3pt%



kobe with the lakers....25.3 ppg,5.3 rpg,4.7 apg,1.5 spg,0.6 bpg,46% fg%,34% 3pt%



once again kids wtf yall smoking?Crushes him in everything except 3pt% which he's 1% behind.Let's move to the playoffs....



jordan playoff numbers..33.4 ppg,6.4 rpg,5.7 apg,2.1 spg,0.9 bpg,49% fg%,33% 3pt%



kobe playoff numbers....25.5 ppg,5.2 rpg,4.8 apg,1.4 spg,0.7 bpg,45% fg%,34% 3pt%



yet again way better in everything except 3pt which is 1% difference.Also kobe has played 19 more playoff games and jordan has 900+ points,100+ rebounds,about 70 more a.ssists,about 100 more steals,and about 20 more blocks .Let's roll on to the finals



jordan 6-0 6 finals mvps...33.6 ppg,6.0 rpg,6.0 apg,1.8 spg,0.7 bpg,48% fg%,37% 3pt%



kobe 4-2 2 finals mvps......24.9 ppg,5.8 rpg,5.2 apg,1.6 spg,0.9 bpg,41% fg%,32% 3pt%



and another one



Let's break down their game...



scoring - jordan


mid range game - close..prob even


long range - kobe


driving - jordan


rebounding - jordan


passing - jordan


on ball defender - jordan


help defender - jordan


steals - jordan


blocking - jordan


clutch - jordan (have almost same amount of game winners and kobe has way more misses..clutch isn't just buzzer beaters it's puttin the team on ur back in the 4th in clutch situations...not gettin blownout by 37 points in the finals and losing a big lead at home in the finals)



how about their 60 point games?



Jordan’s 60pt+ games came against the 1st, 2nd, 5th, 10th & 12th ranked defenses. Against teams that averaged 52 wins, 30 losses



Kobe's 60pt+ games came against the 11th, 23rd, 26th, 29th & 30th ranked defenses. And those 5 teams had an average record of 35-47



how about records..go to nba.com and see how many kobe got on there .It's wilt,then jordan,then the rest scattered around when it comes to record held in the nba.Jordan holds about 50+ nba records...what kobe got like 3-4?



tired of typin..


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 8 years ago '05        #111
astroblack9 4 heat pts
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This sh*t again?!?!


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 8 years ago '07        #112
deemoney23 15 heat pts15
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 marcusaka50 said
Kobe is as good as MJ. If you dont believe this you are a hater. Only thing Kobe has over Mike is probably a better 3pt shot but Kobe isnt a great 3pt shooter so who gives a sh*t. If he was so great at it people would talk about it. Nobody could stop them one on one indivdually in their era. We will never see them play each other in their prime. Only thing you going to argue is stats and achievements. Lets be real is that the only way to prove who is greater player between these two or is it proving who is the greater achiever?

There is only one way to prove who's better in any competition and its going one on one in their prime. No matter if you switch them from each other's era they would still dominate from a offensive and defensive stand point. Kobe/MJ had no competition indivdually but both needed great teams to win chips. The only reason Mike dominated his era he kept his championship team together for 6 and Kobe kept his for 3.

... ... ... So let's say I actually believed this thread title First off, I'm trying to stop laughing from looking at the time that n*ggaz made this thread and started posting! Kobe stans woke up from a nightmare about MJ being the GOAT and then realized it wasn't a dream but the harsh reality and decided to log on to BXSC to post thread 1,987,654 about Kobe being as good or better So, I'm going to tell the stans what I'll do for yall. Since its too easy riding for MJ and u n*ggaz are boring me daily with your pathetic claims for your so called GOAT, I'm switching sides. I'm arguing for Kobe for the next week and I'm going to see if I can try and convince myself and yall that he is as good or better than MJ. This was the only thing I could think of that would be fun for me in this debate going forward. I've just got tired of owning the same n*ggaz week to week on here in this debate ......... well wish me luck

 8 years ago '05        #113
Dun Language 4238 heat pts4238
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 iPod160 said
look, MJ is the GOAT. Kobe had shaq for those first few rings..MJ had Bill Cartwright in the middle. In effect, Kobe was the Scottie Pippen of those first few rings for LA. It is what it is...
Jordan had bill, Horace, pippin, bj

And Kobe was Kobe stop trying to down playbills accomplishments

You wouldn't like it if it was done to you

 8 years ago '04        #114
Magnificent Phoenix|m 13 heat pts13
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The thread with the info graphic from yesterday wasn't good enough for ya?

You had to start your own thread?



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 8 years ago '07        #115
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that was probably the most pathetic kobe vs jordan argument i have ever read on here.

 8 years ago '06        #116
beantown 74 heat pts74
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 marcusaka50 said
Kobe is as good as MJ. If you dont believe this you are a hater. Only thing Kobe has over Mike is probably a better 3pt shot but Kobe isnt a great 3pt shooter so who gives a sh*t. If he was so great at it people would talk about it. Nobody could stop them one on one indivdually in their era. We will never see them play each other in their prime. Only thing you going to argue is stats and achievements. Lets be real is that the only way to prove who is greater player between these two or is it proving who is the greater achiever?

There is only one way to prove who's better in any competition and its going one on one in their prime. No matter if you switch them from each other's era they would still dominate from a offensive and defensive stand point. Kobe/MJ had no competition indivdually but both needed great teams to win chips. The only reason Mike dominated his era he kept his championship team together for 6 and Kobe kept his for 3.
Your first sentence alone shows that you are poorly educated and don't know anything about making a convincing argument. You don't start an argument with "If you don't believe _____, then you are a hater" that's not an argument.

So take your fu*kin thread and stick it up your fu*kin f*ggot a.ss :rant:

 8 years ago '05        #117
dmunson318 1 heat pts
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only thing i got out of all this is how hard jordan really had to work for his team to even be relevant. thread/video/time spent/research fail.

 8 years ago '10        #118
beast mode 27 heat pts27
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i guess Robert horry>>>> kobe then

 8 years ago '10        #119
beast mode 27 heat pts27
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jordan better stats....more accolades........kobe stans mad

if stats don't tell the whole story then i guess neither does rings.

 8 years ago '05        #120
dmunson318 1 heat pts
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n*ggas want kobe to be better than jordan so bad now age is a major factor. n*ggas want u to be 25 before u can make your say about who had a better career etc.

 8 years ago '04        #121
D1nOnlyMrM@ 45 heat pts45
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i still dont get why people argue about someone who is not retired yet. i will say kobe lost against a team that featured chauncey billups, rasheed wallace, ben wallace, tayshaun prince, richard hamilton. thats a nice starting five. ben wallace won dpoy more than twice. and the rest could hit threes and all played d. jordan had to go against some mean squads too. but a defense like that... eh i dunno if he faced and beat a team in the finals like that team.

 8 years ago '04        #122
D1nOnlyMrM@ 45 heat pts45
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and this bigman arguement kinda sucks. would it be safe to say maybe the big men of that era were not as well polished as today's big men? i mean dwight howard is a beast, but he's been to one finals. how worthy is a big men against a run and gun team. plus they didnt score but they set great screens on the bulls. rodman ron harper scottie pippen toni kukoc michael jordan. yall gon tell me thats not a hell of a team? ron harper was a beast before chi. his numbers dipped like sh*t after tho. that made him a guy adjusting to a role. isnt that what the big 3 from boston have had to do?

 05-01-2011, 11:19 AM         #123
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 8 years ago '06        #124
davon4204 34 heat pts34
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People just need 2 stop with comparing Kobe with Jordan. There is none.

 8 years ago '07        #125
oitsjusthim 7 heat pts
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fu*k Kobe!!!!! If that f*g went to Charlotte which was a bad team like Chicago was at the time Jordan was drafted this would be a non issue. I mean Kobe went to a contender so this argument is bullsh*t.

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