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Nov 10- Lev Parnas, Russian Mafia Giuliani Goon, Says HE Made Ukraine Extortion Demand
 

 
Lev Parnas, Russian Mafia Giuliani Goon, Says HE Made Ukraine Extortion Demand For Biden Dirt
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Giuliani a*sociate Says He Gave Demand for Biden Inquiry to Ukrainians

By Ben Protess, Andrew E. Kramer, Michael Rothfeld and William K. Rashbaum

Nov. 10, 2019, 5:08 p.m. ET

Not long before the Ukrainian president was inaugurated in May, an a*sociate of Rudolph W. Giuliani’s journeyed to Kiev to deliver a warning to the country’s new leadership, a lawyer for the a*sociate said.

The a*sociate, Lev Parnas, told a representative of the incoming government that it had to announce an investigation into Mr. Trump’s political rival, Joseph R. Biden Jr., and his son, or else Vice President Mike Pence would not attend the swearing-in of the new president, and the United States would freeze aid, the lawyer said.

The claim by Mr. Parnas, who is preparing to share his account with impeachment investigators, challenges the narrative of events from Mr. Trump and Ukrainian officials that is at the core of the congressional inquiry. It also directly links Mr. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, to threats of repercussions made to the Ukrainians, something he has strenuously denied.

But Mr. Parnas’s account, while potentially significant, is being contradicted on several fronts. None of the people involved dispute that the meeting occurred, but Mr. Parnas stands alone in saying the intention was to present an ultimatum to the Ukrainian leadership.

Another participant in the meeting, Mr. Parnas’s business partner, Igor Fruman, said Mr. Parnas’s claim was false; the men never raised the issues of aid or the vice president’s attendance at the inauguration, lawyers for Mr. Fruman said.

Mr. Giuliani denied Mr. Parnas’s contention that he had delivered the warning at the direction of Mr. Giuliani. “Categorically, I did not tell him to say that,” Mr. Giuliani said.

The dispute represents the clearest indication yet that Mr. Parnas, who was indicted along with Mr. Fruman last month on campaign finance charges, has turned on Mr. Trump and Mr. Giuliani.

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Mr. Parnas and Mr. Fruman, both Soviet-born businessmen from Florida, worked with Mr. Giuliani for months in Ukraine outside normal diplomatic channels to further Mr. Trump’s interests. The men have been subpoenaed to testify before Congress, and Mr. Parnas’s lawyer has said his client will comply to the extent he can without incriminating himself. It is unclear if Mr. Parnas will ultimately be called to testify.

Mr. Parnas’s account of the meeting, if corroborated, would reveal the earliest known instance of American aid being tied to demands for Ukraine to take actions that could benefit Mr. Trump’s 2020 re-election campaign. It would also represent a more extensive threat — to pull Mr. Pence from the inaugural delegation — than was previously known.

Mr. Trump froze nearly $400 million in military aid to Ukraine shortly before a July 25 call with the country’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, in which Mr. Trump personally sought investigations into the Bidens and claims that Ukrainians had meddled in the 2016 election. In the call, Mr. Trump did not explicitly link the aid and the investigations.

Mr. Trump has denied a quid pro quo involving aid, and Mr. Zelensky has said he never felt pressured to pursue an investigation.

The meeting in Kiev in May occurred after Mr. Giuliani, with Mr. Parnas’s help, had planned a trip there to urge Mr. Zelensky to pursue the investigations. Mr. Giuliani canceled his trip at the last minute, claiming he was being “set up.”

Only three people were present at the meeting: Mr. Parnas, Mr. Fruman and Serhiy Shefir, a member of the inner circle of Mr. Zelensky, then the Ukrainian president-elect. The sit-down took place at an outdoor cafe in the days before Mr. Zelensky’s May 20 inauguration, according to a person familiar with the events. The men sipped coffee and spoke in Russian, which is widely spoken in Ukraine, the person said.

Mr. Parnas’s lawyer, Joseph A. Bondy, said the message to the Ukrainians was given at the direction of Mr. Giuliani, whom Mr. Parnas believed was acting under Mr. Trump’s instruction. Mr. Giuliani said he “never authorized such a conversation.”

A lawyer for Mr. Fruman, John M. Dowd, said his client told him the men were seeking only a meeting with Mr. Zelensky, the new president. “There was no mention of any terms, military aid or whatever they are talking about it — it’s false,” said Mr. Dowd, who represents Mr. Fruman along with the lawyer Todd Blanche.

In a statement on Friday, Mr. Shefir acknowledged meeting with Mr. Parnas and Mr. Fruman. But he said they had not raised the issue of military aid. Mr. Shefir said he briefed the incoming president on the meeting. Mr. Shefir was a business partner and longtime friend whom Mr. Zelensky appointed as his chief adviser on the first day of his presidency.

“We did not treat Mr. Parnas and Mr. Fruman as official representatives, and therefore we did not consider that they could speak on behalf of the U.S. government,” Mr. Shefir said. He added Mr. Parnas and Mr. Fruman had requested that Mr. Zelensky meet with Mr. Giuliani.

Mr. Shefir said in his statement that he had told Mr. Parnas and Mr. Fruman “that we could consider meeting with Mr. Giuliani, but only publicly and officially and only after the inauguration of the newly elected president.”

The statement from Mr. Shefir, issued in response to an inquiry from The New York Times, did not directly address Mr. Parnas’s claims that he had delivered an ultimatum about American aid in general and Mr. Pence’s attendance at the inauguration. A representative for Mr. Zelensky did not respond to a request for further comment.


Mr. Bondy, Mr. Parnas’s lawyer, challenged Mr. Shefir’s characterization. “It would simply defy reason,” he said, “for Mr. Shefir to have attended a meeting with Mr. Parnas if he did not believe Mr. Parnas spoke for the president, and also for Mr. Parnas not to have conveyed the president’s message at this meeting.”

Mr. Pence did not attend the inauguration. His office said in response to questions from The Times that it had told Ukrainian officials on May 13, a week before the swearing-in, that the vice president would not be there.

Mr. Giuliani is under investigation by Manhattan prosecutors and the F.B.I. over whether he illegally engaged in lobbying for foreign interests in connection with the Ukraine efforts. He has denied any wrongdoing, saying he was working for his client, Mr. Trump.

That investigation grew out of one into Mr. Parnas and Mr. Fruman. An indictment unsealed on Oct. 10 accused the men of illegally routing a $325,000 contribution to a political action committee supporting Mr. Trump through a shell company and linked them to an effort to recall the United States ambassador to Ukraine, Marie L. Yovanovitch, who was the subject of criticism from many of Mr. Trump’s allies. The men were also charged with funneling campaign contributions from a Russian businessman to other American politicians to influence them in support of a marijuana venture. The two men, and two co-defendants, have pleaded not guilty.

The impeachment inquiry was started after a whistle-blower complained about the July phone call in which Mr. Trump asked Mr. Zelensky to look into Burisma, a Ukrainian company that gave Mr. Biden’s son Hunter a seat on its board and paid him as much as $50,000 a month. Mr. Trump suggested to Mr. Zelensky that Ukraine should contact Mr. Giuliani and the United States attorney general, William P. Barr, about the Bidens.

With Mr. Trump by his side at the United Nations General a*sembly in September, Mr. Zelensky told reporters that his July call with the president had been “normal” and that “nobody pushed me,” adding that he did not want to become entangled in American elections.


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 6 days ago '09        #2
messy marv stan  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x8
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how much did ghouliani and fat blob pay him to take the fall
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 messy marv stan said
how much did ghouliani and fat blob pay him to take the fall


He pays Ghouliani. When he got popped he said he was on Trump’s legal team so his evidence is “privileged“. He claims he’s cooperating because Fat Fu€k lied when he denied that he knows him.
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fu*k traitors
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evidence they aiding and abetting traitors
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 6 days ago '04        #9
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hopefully they can put trumps execution for treason on pay per view and we can use the funds to pay all these hillbillies trailer fees

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this is probably the last time this piece of sh*t lindsey told the truth

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Last month, Sondland was a "really good man" and a "great American." Now? "I hardly know the gentleman"

President Trump now says he “hardly” knows Gordon Sondland, whom he appointed as ambassador to the European Union, despite apparently ordering Sondland to extort the Ukrainian government into investigating Joe Biden and previously praising him as a “great American.”

Sondland, a major Trump supporter who was appointed to his post after donating $1 million to the president’s inauguration, changed his testimony to Congress this week to admit that Trump tried to force Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter by withholding nearly $400 million in military aid and a long-sought White House meeting with Ukraine’s new president.

After his revised testimony, Trump allies immediately tried to spin his close ties to the president. Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., ridiculously dismissed Sondland as a “bureaucrat” and suggested he might be working with “Democratic operatives.”

On Friday, Trump responded to questions about Sondland’s revised testimony admitting to a quid pro quo by saying, “I hardly know the gentleman."

Trump’s dubious claim came exactly a month after the president declared Sondland to be a “really good man and a great American.”

Trump’s claim is also contradicted by the testimonies of numerous administration officials, including Sondland himself.

Sondland told Congress that Trump personally “directed” him to explain to Ukrainian officials that the proposed investigation was a “condition” for the release of the military aid that “had been communicated by Rudy Giuliani.”

Sondland also testified that Trump personally instructed him to deny a “quid pro quo” to Bill Taylor, the top U.S. diplomat in Ukraine, even though that wasn’t the case. Sondland said he was simply repeating what Trump told him. He also testified that he was “disappointed” that Trump directed him to involve Giuliani.
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A lawyer for Mr. Fruman, John M. Dowd, said his client told him the men were seeking only a meeting with Mr. Zelensky, the new president. “There was no mention of any terms, military aid or whatever they are talking about it — it’s false,” said Mr. Dowd, who represents Mr. Fruman along with the lawyer Todd Blanche.
If you don't remember Dowd. He's trump's former lawyer that called Michael Flynn's lawyer and left him a voice mail to let them know if Flynn is going to turn snitch.




Blanche is Paul Manafort's lawyer.

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next they will attack parnas character and they are right hes a real piece of sh*t with a long track record. hes also rudy colludy the booty julie's best friend but its ok trump will just say he doesnt know him


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