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 1 month ago '19        #26
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 rnfufbx said

good lord you dumb motherfu*kers, China's paying those tariffs too huh?
Dow Jones was 17000 when Trump won election its DOWN to over 25000.



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A 5% correction on a 50% move to all time highs doesn't mean Orange man bad...

Muh tarrifs .. Wtf you a commie bro why you rooting for the paper dragon??
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 1 month ago '15        #27
MemphisBleek  2 heat pts2
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Are people worried? Or are people wanting one?

 1 month ago '19        #28
Badassbillygunn 
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 GoldBluded said
Riches are made in recessions
Buy some property for the low
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 1 month ago '18        #29
Irenekush 
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Yeah,whatever. If they got them houses going for 10 bands like they did back in '09 I'm buying a whole block. So if a recession does or doesn't happen it s a win win.

 1 month ago '17        #30
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I still think we are good til October.
The debt ceiling was lifted but there still has to be a budget and its projected that 600 billion is going to need to be borrowed.
Thats going to be a tough number with rates going down and other countries having their own problem.

I'd watch for Germany and Japan first.
Germany is the only country in Europe that really exports anything and Japan is now the leading buyer of US debt.

It will be a slow fall then Brexit will push it over the edge by the end of the month.

 1 month ago '19        #31
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 925 said
Dow Jones was 17000 when Trump won election its DOWN to over 25000.



Bx mathematicians



A 5% correction on a 50% move to all time highs doesn't mean Orange man bad...

Muh tarrifs .. Wtf you a commie bro why you rooting for the paper dragon??
the inversion of the yield curve. It is a phenomenon in the bond market in which longer-term interest rates fall below shorter-term interest rates, and has historically been a warning sign that a recession could be on the way.
For every dollar brought in by the new tariffs, a dollar has been authorized to fund rescue programs for farmers who have been harmed by retaliation from China and other countries. The U.S. authorized $12 billion in farm rescue funds in 2018 and an additional $16 billion this year, for a total of $28 billion.
but what the fu*k do you care you have no money in the market and live in ya moms basement
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 1 month ago '11        #32
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i wonder if some of yall actually have money invested. My 401k gained thousands damn near over night when Trump went into office and I wasnt the only one.

 1 month ago '19        #33
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 rnfufbx said
but what the fu*k do you care you have no money in the market and live in ya moms basement
I got the deed to my house you fool and have been all in on gold/silver miners since 2015.

I know what an inverted yield curve is and i didn't even have to google it. The Fed raising rates while the whole world was easing is responsible for the inversion. The Fed has to devalue the dollar and lower interests which should get me a couple more houses if this gold/silver miner play pans out.

Obviously a recession is coming and the media are going to blame it on Donny. That doesn't mean its his fault or that tarrifs were a bad idea. Americans are so entitled we can't stomach a trade war -that is rightfully just imo- so Trump will have to fold. Trump's dumb a*s married the market and will lose in 2020 for it.

All you partisan hacks can't think for yourselves. Its sad. Trump's trade war is the right play if it brings back the manufacturing base we desperately need and/or stymies a communist threat which has drained our middle class. Everything is political and the plebes can't see how the bought and paid for media owned by the same multi national corp operators ate pulling the wool over their eyes. You guys can criticize Trump for alot of things standing up to the paper dragon shouldn't be one.

 1 month ago '12        #34
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Yall talking like politicians is really making moves with the economy man some of yall are clueless about how the wealthiest people move and I dont blame yall they do a good job at that
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 1 month ago '08        #35
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yea hopefully not. I remember graduating college in 06 and that sh*t startin in 07. Its was such a terrible feeling especially since America pushed the whole "You go to college" you work whereever you want. I realized quickly that sh*t was ALL FALSE


 1 month ago '19        #36
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 925 said
I got the deed to my house you fool and have been all in on gold/silver miners since 2015.

I know what an inverted yield curve is and i didn't even have to google it. The Fed raising rates while the whole world was easing is responsible for the inversion. The Fed has to devalue the dollar and lower interests which should get me a couple more houses if this gold/silver miner play pans out.

Obviously a recession is coming and the media are going to blame it on Donny. That doesn't mean its his fault or that tarrifs were a bad idea. Americans are so entitled we can't stomach a trade war -that is rightfully just imo- so Trump will have to fold. Trump's dumb a*s married the market and will lose in 2020 for it.

All you partisan hacks can't think for yourselves. Its sad. Trump's trade war is the right play if it brings back the manufacturing base we desperately need and/or stymies a communist threat which has drained our middle class. Everything is political and the plebes can't see how the bought and paid for media owned by the same multi national corp operators ate pulling the wool over their eyes. You guys can criticize Trump for alot of things standing up to the paper dragon shouldn't be one.
you know enough about finance to back a motherfu*ker thats gone bankrupt at least 3 times

 1 month ago '19        #37
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 rnfufbx said
you know enough about finance to back a motherfu*ker thats gone bankrupt at least 3 times
Trump never went bankrupt his corporations did. America is insolvent and needs restructuring any way so his experience might come in handy.

That's beside the point though. My point was whatever your problems with Trump may be putting tarrifs on a communist regime that have cheat America for 30 years. But go ahead tell me another bumper sticker talking point.

 1 month ago '06        #38
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 925 said
Trump never went bankrupt his corporations did. America is insolvent and needs restructuring any way so his experience might come in handy.

That's beside the point though. My point was whatever your problems with Trump may be putting tarrifs on a communist regime that have cheat America for 30 years. But go ahead tell me another bumper sticker talking point.
But one of those businesses that went bankrupt was a Casino....let that sink in. You have to have horrible business sense to bankrupt a business in which "the house always wins" is the model.

Putting tarifs on a communist regime that Americans have to pay and cutting off permanently American farmers from the largest agriculture market on the planet for what? China can and has found new partners to buy crops from....so what happens years down this road when China decides to "stop cheating"? The rest of the world thanks us for taking one on the chin by standing up to China while their country enjoys the fruit of our old agriculture revenue streams? Donald Trump is full of sh*t and we're going to be paying for his incompetence for a long time.
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 1 month ago '19        #39
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 925 said
Trump never went bankrupt his corporations did. America is insolvent and needs restructuring any way so his experience might come in handy.

That's beside the point though. My point was whatever your problems with Trump may be putting tarrifs on a communist regime that have cheat America for 30 years. But go ahead tell me another bumper sticker talking point.
stopped here
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 1 month ago '19        #40
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 Kingme said
But one of those businesses that went bankrupt was a Casino....let that sink in. You have to have horrible business sense to bankrupt a business in which "the house always wins" is the model.

Putting tarifs on a communist regime that Americans have to pay and cutting off permanently American farmers from the largest agriculture market on the planet for what? China can and has found new partners to buy crops from....so what happens years down this road when China decides to "stop cheating"? The rest of the world thanks us for taking one on the chin by standing up to China while their country enjoys the fruit of our old agriculture revenue streams? Donald Trump is full of sh*t and we're going to be paying for his incompetence for a long time.
hes an expert level fu*k up
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 4 weeks ago '19        #41
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 rnfufbx said
stopped here
You don't know the difference between personal and corporate bankruptcies.


 4 weeks ago '06        #42
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 rnfufbx said
hes an expert level fu*k up


All the machines are rigged to make Casinos profitable, the odds in all of the card and dice games are in the Casinos favor, the food and beverages are marked up, large amounts of people go there daily to spend money...it's an idiot proof business, yet Donald "stable Genius" Trump fu*ked it up
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 4 weeks ago '19        #43
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 Kingme said
But one of those businesses that went bankrupt was a Casino....let that sink in. You have to have horrible business sense to bankrupt a business in which "the house always wins" is the model.

Putting tarifs on a communist regime that Americans have to pay and cutting off permanently American farmers from the largest agriculture market on the planet for what? China can and has found new partners to buy crops from....so what happens years down this road when China decides to "stop cheating"? The rest of the world thanks us for taking one on the chin by standing up to China while their country enjoys the fruit of our old agriculture revenue streams? Donald Trump is full of sh*t and we're going to be paying for his incompetence for a long time.
Foxwoods,Mohegan Sun, countless other changes in gaming laws, and a recession bankrupted the casino- not Trump. Atlantic City got crushed when Connecticut allowed the pequots and mohegans to put up casinos.



So the Chinese will buy agriculture from other countries but Americans are too incompetent to find trading partners that 1) don't have tarrifs on their products 2) won't outright commandeer our intilectual property?



Staying in a trade agreement with China because muh tarrifs is like being scared to leave your girl who is cheating on you because your scared you'll miss her cooking. You fools rage against multinational corporations selling us out to the commies but when someone stands up to them you cry like little bi*ches. You ever stop and think maybe the iphones and appliances etc we use SHOULD be made in America. Democrats want 15 minimum wage but cry about wage inflation from made in America manufacturing WHICH IS THE GOAL OF TARRIFS.

BTW China is starving and this years crop season has been well below average from the solar minimum. If China could get their agriculture demands met from Brazil or Russia, the market -and not the trade war- would dictate they would go that route anyways (cheaper prices/lack of GMOS etc). Its the same dynamics at play. China has a huge population and not enough resources to feed it. This year particularly due to swine flues and bugs infestations. We have the upper hand you pussies are just too naive to take advantage.

There is a lot to unpack with US agriculture. There will be food shortages down the road id rather have us using our resourve advantage to farm something other than soybeans for commies and GMO corn for ethanol.

 4 weeks ago '07        #44
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 Tom Herman said


This is facts
You do know what year Trump's economic legislation went Into effect, right?

 4 weeks ago '06        #45
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 925 said
Foxwoods,Mohegan Sun, countless other changes in gaming laws, and a recession bankrupted the casino- not Trump. Atlantic City got crushed when Connecticut allowed the pequots and mohegans to put up casinos.



So the Chinese will buy agriculture from other countries but Americans are too incompetent to find trading partners that 1) don't have tarrifs on their products 2) won't outright commandeer our intilectual property?



Staying in a trade agreement with China because muh tarrifs is like being scared to leave your girl who is cheating on you because your scared you'll miss her cooking. You fools rage against multinational corporations selling us out to the commies but when someone stands up to them you cry like little bi*ches. You ever stop and think maybe the iphones and appliances etc we use SHOULD be made in America. Democrats want 15 minimum wage but cry about wage inflation from made in America manufacturing WHICH IS THE GOAL OF TARRIFS.

BTW China is starving and this years crop season has been well below average from the solar minimum. If China could get their agriculture demands met from Brazil or Russia, the market -and not the trade war- would dictate they would go that route anyways (cheaper prices/lack of GMOS etc). Its the same dynamics at play. China has a huge population and not enough resources to feed it. This year particularly due to swine flues and bugs infestations. We have the upper hand you pussies are just too naive to take advantage.

There is a lot to unpack with US agriculture. There will be food shortages down the road id rather have us using our resourve advantage to farm something other than soybeans for commies and GMO corn for ethanol.
Bro, how many Casinos in Atlantic City went bankrupt during that recession once let alone 3 times before closing permanently, I'll wait

Show me where I said stay in a trade agreement...I'll wait.

Trump isn't in bed with the "commies" now "what's wrong with being friends with Russia"?

China is absolutely getting their trade demands met elsewhere other countries couldn't wait to pick up those contracts, Google's your friend bro, look it up.

The tariffs Trump placed on China does not hurt China because the American or "multinational corporations" as you like to call them such as Nike, Walmart, Apple, etc raise their prices so consumers/customers cover the Tariffs. Wait you don't think Apple and Nike are going to spend money on new factories in new countries because of Tariffs American citizens have to pay, do you?

Bro America has had food surpluses for decades on top of decades, Alex Jones is just trying to sell you a survival kit fam.

Can you explain how "we have the upper hand" using facts and not 8chan logic, don't worry I'll wait

 4 weeks ago '19        #46
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 Kingme said
Bro, how many Casinos in Atlantic City went bankrupt during that recession once let alone 3 times before closing permanently, I'll wait

Show me where I said stay in a trade agreement...I'll wait.

Trump isn't in bed with the "commies" now "what's wrong with being friends with Russia"?

China is absolutely getting their trade demands met elsewhere other countries couldn't wait to pick up those contracts, Google's your friend bro, look it up.

The tariffs Trump placed on China does not hurt China because the American or "multinational corporations" as you like to call them such as Nike, Walmart, Apple, etc raise their prices so consumers/customers cover the Tariffs. Wait you don't think Apple and Nike are going to spend money on new factories in new countries because of Tariffs American citizens have to pay, do you?

Bro America has had food surpluses for decades on top of decades, Alex Jones is just trying to sell you a survival kit fam.

Can you explain how "we have the upper hand" using facts and not 8chan logic, don't worry I'll wait
Ok so China been de'dollarizing and signing silk road agreements for years prior to, but the tarrifs are why they are going to completely stop buying agriculture products.



We have the upper hand in the short to mid term due to the swine flu and arnyworns:

"food prices are already climbing, leaping 7.7% in May"





This year's crop starts are down globally. Inevitably there will be shortages down the road. Now is definately the time to focus on sustaining America and we can do that by shifting geopolitically to our neighbors in north, central and south America.

You can't criticize Trump for his stance on China without ackowledging the world of trouble we are in and the damage our leaders have done since JFK was offed. We are long over due for a systematic overhaul it should have never gotten this far.

Go ahead though invent the next great product and get it produced in China. You'll soon learn that to do business over there you will need to merge a subsidiary with the Communist government and give up your intellectual property. Companies are wising up to this and looking to other asian countries for manufacturing. The tariffs should expedite that process ideally though they would incentives companies just to bring manufacturing back home.

Bottomline a year or two we could crush China it would just take sacrifices the American populace are unwilling to undergo. Unfortunately its also impossible politically for this to happen because Americans can not come together in this environment and Trump's narcissistic a*s is all to concerned with the stock market bubbles. Multinational corporations are not our friends as a consumer that wears their products fu*k Nike. fu*k Walmart and Apple also. I don't know maybe we should tax them to hell directly for what they've done. Maybe give subsidizes t coporations that go made in America in addition to tarrifs. Normally I dont like taxes getting in the way of growth usually unless its a determent to antitrust policies but something needs to be done.

If you have a better idea on how to deal with China please let me know. Its obvious they need to be dealt with so unless you have an actual solution your just heckling from the bleachers. Im all ears.


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 4 weeks ago '19        #47
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 Kingme said


All the machines are rigged to make Casinos profitable, the odds in all of the card and dice games are in the Casinos favor, the food and beverages are marked up, large amounts of people go there daily to spend money...it's an idiot proof business, yet Donald "stable Genius" Trump fu*ked it up

 4 weeks ago '19        #48
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 925 said
You don't know the difference between personal and corporate bankruptcies.

yeah I do, trump is running the country, but thats ok because he hasn't gone bankrupt only the companies he was the head of have

you know how fu*king stupid you sound

 4 weeks ago '19        #49
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 rnfufbx said
yeah I do, trump is running the country, but thats ok because he hasn't gone bankrupt only the companies he was the head of have

you know how fu*king stupid you sound
Smart people sound crazy to stupid people.

How many multi million dollar companies have you ran? Was Trump ever insolvent himself?



Obama was a community organizer and fake constitutional scholar/lawyer that never ran a successful firm. Bernie never cashed a check that wasn't endorsed by .gov. The Clintons were lifetime politicians. Bush was all CIA and political money.

Ill take someone who at least attempted to run a company and failed over lifelong statesmen- or their wives/children -who never made money outside of government/government bribes to handle China.

"To learn to succeed, you must first learn to fail." Michael Jordan



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 4 weeks ago '19        #50
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 925 said
Smart people sound crazy to stupid people.

How many multi million dollar companies have you ran? Was Trump ever insolvent himself?



Obama was a community organizer and fake constitutional scholar/lawyer that never ran a successful firm. Bernie never cashed a check that wasn't endorsed by .gov. The Clintons were lifetime politicians. Bush was all CIA and political money.

Ill take someone who at least attempted to run a company and failed over lifelong statesmen- or their wives/children -who never made money outside of government/government bribes to handle China.

"To learn to succeed, you must first learn to fail." Michael Jordan



sometimes a failure is just a failure



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