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Aug 15 - Venezuelan Expat On How Socialism Destroyed His Country/How It Will Ruin The U.S.
 

 
In February, 20-year-old Venezuelan expat Daniel Di Martino penned an op-ed for USA Today, titled: "Venezuela was my home, and socialism destroyed it. Slowly, it will destroy America, too."

On Wednesday, I spoke with Daniel about his experience living in socialist Venezuela, the corruption he witnessed, and the parallels he sees between his home country and progressive political ideology in the United States.

The following is part one of our interview. Part two will be published on Saturday.

DW: What was life in Venezuela like prior to leaving?

DI MARTINO: You don't see how different it is until you actually get out of the country. I couldn't really lead what would be considered in the United States a normal life, especially because of crime and shortages. I could not, for example, walk alone in the street without fear of being kidnapped, robbed, or murdered. Caracas, where I lived, is actually the city with the highest murder rate in the world, and kidnappings were very common. My aunt had been kidnapped already – and the worst part about the crime in Venezuela is that the police are actually a number one perpetrator of it. They are criminals in the day or criminals at night, and then police the other times of the day.

My aunt had been kidnapped, and then when she was released and went to report it at the police station, one of the police officers that she saw in the station was one of the kidnappers. So, she actually didn't go ahead and report it. She just left. That was a huge shock for us. So, that's one thing.

Then, shortages were really pervasive. For example, when I was a child, milk was very hard to find, so we had to sometimes buy a lot of milk cans and save them. Sometimes the same thing would happen with meat, like beef or chicken. At the beginning, it was sporadic, though. I'm talking mid-2000s, almost 2010, 2011. But then, as the government put more price controls on more products, the shortages became worse and worse.

The best example I can think of right now is about eggs. So, a carton, 12 eggs, were priced, I don't know, 100 bolivares, which is our currency. And the government just halved the price. So instead of being 100, it's 50. And since that happened, you couldn't buy anymore eggs in the supermarkets because no supermarket could make a profit. Then you could only buy them on the black market, in shops that were hidden, and they were actually being sold for like 200 instead of 100, like before.

So, the price controls created shortages in the supermarkets, and at the same time increased the price on the black market. Life was really hard because you had to go to many different places to buy what you needed, and you spent a lot of time just finding food.

DW: Did you come to the United States in order to escape that?

DI MARTINO: Yes. I did not want to live in a country where my best case scenario was being in a top school in Venezuela, graduating, getting a good job, and only being able to afford to eat. That would have been the best case scenario for me graduating college in Venezuela and living there. So I worked very hard, even from when I was in middle school, studying English, studying for the SAT. I got involved in Model United Nations. I actually became president of the Model United Nations club in my school; we competed around the city. And with that, I applied to colleges in the U.S., and I was blessed by God that I was able to find this university that gave me a huge scholarship, and I was able to come here.

DW: And you are studying economics?

DI MARTINO: That's right. Yeah. That's the craziest thing. Venezuela is what pushed me to study economics. Seeing hyperinflation – not everybody in the world gets to see hyperinflation, and that's really an intriguing, although terrible, phenomenon that pushed me to want to learn more about why this happens, and how we can prevent this from happening.

DW: Do you see things in the United States politically that you witnessed in Venezuela?

DI MARTINO: Yes. I mean this really from the bottom of my heart, I especially see it in Bernie Sanders, and I see it in Elizabeth Warren, and I see it in many, many Democrats increasingly that use a "class war" argument. For them, it's not about lifting up the poor. For them, it's about taking away from the rich because they despise success, economic success. And I think it's an argument that comes from jealousy, that comes from resentment, and it's very dangerous because our society cannot prosper if we punish success. We need to allow our economy to reward success. We do need to help the poor, but not by punishing success. That also punishes the poor who will become successful.

That’s what really scares me here, that we're seeing not only that rhetoric against success, and against economic empowerment and prosperity, but also proposals that the country just cannot afford. The country is already on a fiscally unsustainable path, and all these proposals would create a huge economic crisis.

DW: What would you tell someone who favors a politician like Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, or some of the other Democratic candidates running for president in 2020?

DI MARTINO: What I would tell them is that I also want to lift up the poor, but I think that to do it, we don't have to punish success. I think the current welfare system, and the economic system, with the government subsidies and regulations, really rigs the economic system in favor of big corporations. I want to eliminate those regulations and those subsidies that benefit those institutions so that everybody gets a shot at success. But the solution is not to implement new taxes or give away everything for free. The solution is to allow people to get jobs that empower them to prosper by themselves.

So, I think about solutions such as deregulating the housing market, and solutions such as eliminating the welfare cliff by simplifying all these programs. There's a new study that came out very recently and there was an op-ed today about how the Medicaid expansion created these huge fraud problem where so much money is being wasted. I think there are many common sense solutions that, if you explain them to people, they will agree with you no matter whether they are Left or Right, and we can and should focus on those kinds of solutions.

Stay tuned for part two of this interview, which will be published on Saturday, in which Di Martino and I further discuss the impact of socialism in the United States, how to best educate American voters about the perils of bad policy, how the "Nordic model" spoken about by progressives is misleading, and the incorrect notion that what’s occurrig in Venezuela is not "true" socialism.
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 1 month ago '18        #2
Sandyy  13 heat pts13
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So america is going to come and put sanctions on america? Cause thats what we did to hugo and his admin that hurt their economy the most.

If anything wouldnt far left finland and canada be better comps for what america would look like?
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 1 month ago '17        #3
lucifershammer  24 heat pts24
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Venezuela doesn't have a socialism problem

Venezuela got a corruption problem
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 1 month ago '08        #4
tdnupe3  20 heat pts20
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 Sandyy said
So america is going to come and put sanctions on america? Cause thats what we did to hugo and his admin that hurt their economy the most.

If anything wouldnt far left finland and canada be better comps for what america would look like?
There's no getting through to these psychos bro. Socialism has become a buzzword for them. They don't even understand the concept of what it is. There are things in the U.S. that are socialist in nature, but they seem to only be concerned with things they read and watch on conspiracy theory sites.

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 1 month ago '17        #5
Lazy  4 heat pts4
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Can anyone see what the OP is about?

 1 month ago '14        #6
Blazeyy  2 heat pts2
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funny how people never use the national socialist workers party of germany as an example of failed socialism
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 1 month ago '17        #7
QdobaCasanova  13 heat pts13
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 Sandyy said
So america is going to come and put sanctions on america? Cause thats what we did to hugo and his admin that hurt their economy the most.

If anything wouldnt far left finland and canada be better comps for what america would look like?
Lol
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 1 month ago '17        #8
lucifershammer  24 heat pts24
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 Blazeyy said
funny how people never use the national socialist workers party of germany as an example of failed socialism
They were socialist only in name
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 1 month ago '19        #9
rnfufbx  3 heat pts3
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 lucifershammer said
They were socialist only in name
no they weren't
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 1 month ago '19        #10
rnfufbx  3 heat pts3
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@ hey you got an article on how tariffs are gonna destroy the US
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 1 month ago '17        #11
ninesix703  11 heat pts11
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 Sandyy said
So america is going to come and put sanctions on america? Cause thats what we did to hugo and his admin that hurt their economy the most.

If anything wouldnt far left finland and canada be better comps for what america would look like?
Incorrect.

"Chávez sought to break every law of economics by carrying out currency controls, expropriations, and price controls"

Currency controls caused hyper inflation

Expropriation caused everything to be a property of the state.

Price controls are up to the free market, not the government. You can't sell a bottle of milk less than it costs to produce it.




 1 month ago '18        #12
Deeznutz1981  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1 OP
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 ninesix703 said
Incorrect.

"Chávez sought to break every law of economics by carrying out currency controls, expropriations, and price controls"

Currency controls caused hyper inflation

Expropriation caused everything to be a property of the state.

Price controls are up to the free market, not the government. You can't sell a bottle of milk less than it costs to produce it.



Exactly and this is what these dumb fu*king socialists will never be able to wrap their heads around.

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 1 month ago '07        #13
A-L-P  8 heat pts8
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 lucifershammer said
Venezuela doesn't have a socialism problem

Venezuela got a corruption problem
The problem is when your gov is corrupt under big gov structures like socialism, the ruling class can pretty much operate in a corrupt manner with impunity. Since everything from the economy to the utilities are centrally controlled, the ways in which citizens can f*ght back are limited.

 1 month ago '07        #14
Bighempin of QM  18 heat pts18
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More like OPEC and the US collusion to tank oil markets ruined the country. Don't let #FakeNews like this spot is from spreading the wealth
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 1 month ago '16        #15
Aztlan  142 heat pts142
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 ninesix703 said
Incorrect.

"Chávez sought to break every law of economics by carrying out currency controls, expropriations, and price controls"

Currency controls caused hyper inflation

Expropriation caused everything to be a property of the state.

Price controls are up to the free market, not the government. You can't sell a bottle of milk less than it costs to produce it.



I came in to say it was mismanagement.

Hugo had a good start that quickly unraveled as he got power drunk. He had no idea what he was doing.
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 1 month ago '12        #16
LivinProof  1 heat pts1
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 Blazeyy said
funny how people never use the national socialist workers party of germany as an example of failed socialism
I know, right. Especially when it's so obviously socialist that they out it in the name. Just look at the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, that shining example of republican democracy.
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 1 month ago '16        #17
Ghostface Killa  8 heat pts8
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 ninesix703 said
Incorrect.

"Chávez sought to break every law of economics by carrying out currency controls, expropriations, and price controls"

Currency controls caused hyper inflation

Expropriation caused everything to be a property of the state.

Price controls are up to the free market, not the government. You can't sell a bottle of milk less than it costs to produce it.



None of which are policies even considered by Democratic socialists.

 1 month ago '17        #18
lucifershammer  24 heat pts24
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 A-L-P said
The problem is when your gov is corrupt under big gov structures like socialism, the ruling class can pretty much operate in a corrupt manner with impunity. Since everything from the economy to the utilities are centrally controlled, the ways in which citizens can f*ght back are limited.
This is so if the government is undemocratic or deep corruption was never eradicated before socialism

 1 month ago '07        #19
Bighempin of QM  18 heat pts18
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Google petrocaribe

Old white men hate anything that ain't white.

 1 month ago '07        #20
A-L-P  8 heat pts8
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 lucifershammer said
This is so if the government is undemocratic or deep corruption was never eradicated before socialism
Corruption in government is usually the result of corrupt people turning a system into something corrupt. The corruption starts with the person first. Power and positions of authority has a tendency to attract people who are either already corrupt or prone to corruption. As long as people seek power, there will always be corruption (near or absolute power corrupts). Even in so called socialist Utopias you’ll have some good leaders in the beginning but it’s inevitable you’ll one day get someone like Trump with authoritarian tendencies. Power only wants more power and this big type of gov people are asking for will never end well because of it.

 1 month ago '14        #21
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 LivinProof said
I know, right. Especially when it's so obviously socialist that they out it in the name. Just look at the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, that shining example of republican democracy.

 1 month ago '17        #22
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 ninesix703 said
Incorrect.

"Chávez sought to break every law of economics by carrying out currency controls, expropriations, and price controls"

Currency controls caused hyper inflation

Expropriation caused everything to be a property of the state.

Price controls are up to the free market, not the government. You can't sell a bottle of milk less than it costs to produce it.



Tell all this to the president then, cause he seems to think he can control America's imports and exports from the Oval Office.

 1 month ago '08        #23
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 1 month ago '17        #24
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 Solitary Genius said
people like jay z and others will use the black panthers as a surface level representation of black empowerment without knowing what they actually stood for.


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 1 month ago '18        #25
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 tdnupe3 said
There's no getting through to these psychos bro. Socialism has become a buzzword for them. They don't even understand the concept of what it is. There are things in the U.S. that are socialist in nature, but they seem to only be concerned with things they read and watch on conspiracy theory sites.

It’s sad because if you asked them to differentiate between communism and socialism you’d get a blank stare.
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