PackerTrelli3 said AND had the best coach in basketball

More proof that you don't know sh*t about anything.

The Bulls was Phil's first NBA head coaching job and wasn't expected to succeed.

Phil Jackson gets the Chicago Bulls coaching job

July 10, 1989

The Bulls will conclude a frenzied five days of controversy and condemnation that started with the firing of coach Doug Collins by naming a*sistant coach Phil Jackson as Collins' successor Monday.

Jackson will be walking into perhaps the most pressurized job in the National Basketball a*sociation, one in which even success may not be enough. Collins was a highly popular figure in Chicago, and the Bulls did exceptionally well with him as coach, winning 40 games his first season, a 10- game improvement, and 50 the next, and although the team won 47 last season, it went farther in the playoffs than in any season since 1975.

Jackson would almost have to make the league finals to reach any level of achievement in the minds of many.

That was just one reason Bulls management was unsure whether Jackson would become the next coach. Both Reinsdorf and Krause have high regard for Jackson as a coach and motivator, and Jackson is well-liked and respected among the players.

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Just2shmoove said 30k-10k-10k is not some made up stat. It’s an anomaly that after these years of it’s existence not a single person in the nba has ever accomplished this. You saying it’s an espn stat is like saying all of wilts stats are espn stats. You can dislike someone and not discredit their career work. Bron ball now is not what it used to be sure I can give you that, however, it’s still better than a majority of star players that iso or play a heliocentric style of ball. There isn’t 10 active stars rn that play better in iso than bron. You really chatting rn

Not one person in history ever has talked or cared about no 30K-10K-10K until you LeBron fans started watching ESPN and Fox Sports on repeat everyday

You dudes constantly cherry pick bullsh*t stats. Talking about 30K-10K-10K but not 4-10 in the Finals

justin747 said Ok so now we are counting injuries, but none of you Bron stans count injuries when you talking about 3-1 when the Warriors lost 2 HOFers a few days apart Bron stans are the fu*kin worst. Yall talk bad about everybody except Bron. Your whole narrative is just saying everybody else was "not that good" You are seriously sitting here sh*tting on teams that made it to the NBA FINALS and Malone who was ahead of Bron in all-time scoring The Bulls WERE the competition. The Bulls WERE the Warriors and their roster was nowhere near as stacked as the Warriors. Jordan was just that dominant Why don't yall understand this? You consistently have some of the WORST hot takes on this website in all topics. That protein powder must be fu*king with your brain

King Am I said Title teams with lowest scoring supporting casts for the overall playoffs Post-1954 (Shot Clock Era) 10. 1994 Rockets - 68.3 PPG 9. 2006 Heat - 67.8 PPG 8. 1993 Bulls - 67.3 PPG 7. 2012 Heat - 67.0 PPG 6. 1996 Bulls - 66.7 PPG 5. 1992 Bulls - 65.9 PPG 4. 2004 Pistons - 65.6 PPG 3. 1999 Spurs - 65.2 PPG 2. 1997 Bulls - 61.5 PPG 1. 1998 Bulls - 60.8 PPG Title teams with sub-66 PPG supporting casts for the overall playoffs Post-1954 (Shot Clock Era) 5. 1992 Bulls - 65.9 PPG 4. 2004 Pistons - 65.6 PPG 3. 1999 Spurs - 65.2 PPG 2. 1997 Bulls - 61.5 PPG 1. 1998 Bulls - 60.8 PPG Sub-60 ppg supporting casts in the NBA Finals for Championship Teams Post-1954 (Shot-Clock Era) 5. 1994 Rockets - 59.3 ppg 4. 2006 Heat - 58.2 ppg 3. 1999 Spurs - 57.4 ppg 2. 1997 Bulls - 55.5 ppg 1. 1998 Bulls - 54.5 ppg In the shot-clock era, Jordan has - 5 of the 8 lowest scoring playoff supporting casts for title teams - 4 of the 6 lowest scoring playoff supporting casts for title teams - 3 of the 5 lowest scoring playoff supporting casts for title teams - The 2 lowest scoring playoff supporting casts for title teams - Jordan is the only player to lead multiple top 10 lowest-scoring playoff supporting casts among title teams Michael Jordan carried the Bulls. BTW Michael Jordan is not missing the Playoffs with Anthony Davis.

They surrounded Jordan with a bunch of defenders and Scottie. They left MJ and Scottie as the only two scorers until Tony was signed to the team. Jordan also averaged over 20+ fga when the league average for team shots in the mid to late 90’s was 79-82. You had him taking 25% minimum of the team shots lol it’s not a carry job when your team has the #1 and arguably #2 player in the league scoring and everyone else for defense it’s literally how the team was built so Jordan could flourish.

Just2shmoove said Jordan carried the Bulls but my hating a*s is still going to lie.

FULL List of players to win/achieve:

- NBA MVP
- NBA Finals MVP
- World Champion
- Scoring champion
- 1st Team All-NBA
- All-Defensive 1st Team
- All-Star Game MVP

All in the SAME season....

1996 Michael Jordan
1998 Michael Jordan

That's the full list.

And if you slim the requirements down to:

- NBA MVP
- NBA Finals MVP
- World Champion
- Scoring champion
- All-Defensive 1st Team

That's been done 4 times.... by:

1991 Michael Jordan
1992 Michael Jordan
1996 Michael Jordan
1998 Michael Jordan

Once again, the full list.

Game 6 1998 NBA Finals
The Greatest Minute of Basketball in NBA History. Down 3 points with only 41 seconds left Jordan quite literally did EVERYTHING!!! He scored the quick layup keeping the Bulls hopes alive with 37 seconds left. Next he had the Defensive IQ to act like he was moving with Hornacek but in reality he stayed behind Malone and poked the ball out. If that wasn’t enough he comes down casually and hits THE SHOT ... MJ did it on BOTH ends.
MJ 45 points game winning shot
Toni Kukoc 15 points
Pippen 8 points
Ron Harper 8 points
Rodman 7 points
Bill Wennington 2 points
Jud Buechler 2 points
Luc Longley scored ZERO POINTS
Steve Kerr scored ZERO POINTS
Scott Burrell scored ZERO POINTS

It was Jordan's will-to-win!!!

justin747 said Not one person in history ever has talked or cared about no 30K-10K-10K until you LeBron fans started watching ESPN and Fox Sports on repeat everyday You dudes constantly cherry pick bullsh*t stats. Talking about 30K-10K-10K but not 4-10 in the Finals

I never said anything about his finals record not being a hindrance on him that’s one. Secondly no one talked about it because it wasn’t close to happening until this season. No one talked about a player scoring 100 until wilt did it, that doesn’t make it an espn stat it just means no one thought it was possible. no player has ever passed AND scored at the elite level lebron has for 20 years. No player has ever been this elite for this long. Lebron can still put up 25+ a game for the next 2-3 years at minimum the way he looks. 20 years of dominating plus break multiple records along the way is why lebron is put ahead of Jordan by multiple people. Jerry west was considered the goat before Kareem and he was 1-9 in the finals. Only you espn watchers started talking about finals records once he lost to the stacked spurs with bums on his team that wouldn’t have been there if it weren’t for bron.

justin747 said That's an OPINION There's not a statistically category for Finals appearances other than loser. Nobody praises the 90s Buffalo Bills for making it to the SB 4 times in a row because they were losers. But Finals wins is a category

There is a stat for finals appearances.

There is a stat for finals losses.

There is a stat for finals wins.

The definition of stat is a fact or piece of data from a study of a large quantity of numerical data.

They are all stats.

How do you know nobody praises the 90s Buffalo Bills? Can you prove to me that nobody does?

RANK ONE said There is a stat for finals appearances. There is a stat for finals losses. There is a stat for finals wins. The definition of stat is a fact or piece of data from a study of a large quantity of numerical data. They are all stats. How do you know nobody praises the 90s Buffalo Bills? Can you prove to me that nobody does?

Can you prove that anybody cares about fu*king Finals appearances?

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Just2shmoove said I never said anything about his finals record not being a hindrance on him that’s one. Secondly no one talked about it because it wasn’t close to happening until this season. No one talked about a player scoring 100 until wilt did it, that doesn’t make it an espn stat it just means no one thought it was possible. no player has ever passed AND scored at the elite level lebron has for 20 years. No player has ever been this elite for this long. Lebron can still put up 25+ a game for the next 2-3 years at minimum the way he looks. 20 years of dominating plus break multiple records along the way is why lebron is put ahead of Jordan by multiple people. Jerry west was considered the goat before Kareem and he was 1-9 in the finals. Only you espn watchers started talking about finals records once he lost to the stacked spurs with bums on his team that wouldn’t have been there if it weren’t for bron.

You’re just rambling. You dudes care about all stats except wins

King Am I said FULL List of players to win/achieve: - NBA MVP - NBA Finals MVP - World Champion - Scoring champion - 1st Team All-NBA - All-Defensive 1st Team - All-Star Game MVP All in the SAME season.... 1996 Michael Jordan 1998 Michael Jordan That's the full list. And if you slim the requirements down to: - NBA MVP - NBA Finals MVP - World Champion - Scoring champion - All-Defensive 1st Team That's been done 4 times.... by: 1991 Michael Jordan 1992 Michael Jordan 1996 Michael Jordan 1998 Michael Jordan Once again, the full list. Game 6 1998 NBA Finals The Greatest Minute of Basketball in NBA History. Down 3 points with only 41 seconds left Jordan quite literally did EVERYTHING!!! He scored the quick layup keeping the Bulls hopes alive with 37 seconds left. Next he had the Defensive IQ to act like he was moving with Hornacek but in reality he stayed behind Malone and poked the ball out. If that wasn’t enough he comes down casually and hits THE SHOT ... MJ did it on BOTH ends. MJ 45 points game winning shot Toni Kukoc 15 points Pippen 8 points Ron Harper 8 points Rodman 7 points Bill Wennington 2 points Jud Buechler 2 points Luc Longley scored ZERO POINTS Steve Kerr scored ZERO POINTS Scott Burrell scored ZERO POINTS It was Jordan's will-to-win!!!

You said all that to say nothing. You literally cherry picked stats to only include a scoring title which only one player wins during the season and Scottie was never a scoring title player. I like how you left out that Scottie was a 10 all defensive player, 7x all nba, all star game mvp, consistently ranked as a top 15 player all time AND how rodman was a 2x DPOY, 2 time all star, 8x all defensive team and 7x rebounding champ but that didn’t fit your narrative so you tried to hide their accomplishments. That’s two of the most decorated players in nba history that have every paired up. Any player that bron played with is not as decorated as these two players. Get off your knees

this sh*t gonna be argued forever
they both did their jobs. 1A and 1B to me tbh idc. but when y’all get into this 3-5; 5-10 sh*t for bron i know it’s hate lol.

King Am I said Title teams with lowest scoring supporting casts for the overall playoffs Post-1954 (Shot Clock Era) 10. 1994 Rockets - 68.3 PPG 9. 2006 Heat - 67.8 PPG 8. 1993 Bulls - 67.3 PPG 7. 2012 Heat - 67.0 PPG 6. 1996 Bulls - 66.7 PPG 5. 1992 Bulls - 65.9 PPG 4. 2004 Pistons - 65.6 PPG 3. 1999 Spurs - 65.2 PPG 2. 1997 Bulls - 61.5 PPG 1. 1998 Bulls - 60.8 PPG Title teams with sub-66 PPG supporting casts for the overall playoffs Post-1954 (Shot Clock Era) 5. 1992 Bulls - 65.9 PPG 4. 2004 Pistons - 65.6 PPG 3. 1999 Spurs - 65.2 PPG 2. 1997 Bulls - 61.5 PPG 1. 1998 Bulls - 60.8 PPG Sub-60 ppg supporting casts in the NBA Finals for Championship Teams Post-1954 (Shot-Clock Era) 5. 1994 Rockets - 59.3 ppg 4. 2006 Heat - 58.2 ppg 3. 1999 Spurs - 57.4 ppg 2. 1997 Bulls - 55.5 ppg 1. 1998 Bulls - 54.5 ppg In the shot-clock era, Jordan has - 5 of the 8 lowest scoring playoff supporting casts for title teams - 4 of the 6 lowest scoring playoff supporting casts for title teams - 3 of the 5 lowest scoring playoff supporting casts for title teams - The 2 lowest scoring playoff supporting casts for title teams - Jordan is the only player to lead multiple top 10 lowest-scoring playoff supporting casts among title teams Michael Jordan carried the Bulls. BTW Michael Jordan is not missing the Playoffs with Anthony Davis.

I really hope you mean wizards Jordan and not prime of his career jordan. Lebron before his 19th year was a guaranteed trip to playoffs with a guaranteed conference finals appearance. You really d*ck sucking

justin747 said Can you prove that anybody cares about fu*king Finals appearances? Also view image

If I can prove to you that the NBA itself cares about it,

Will you admit defeat?

RANK ONE said If I can prove to you that the NBA itself cares about it, Will you admit defeat?

fu*k no. I already know you never watched Jordan play. Your opinion is worthless

I’ve watched Bron choke and fail multiple times. I’ve watched Bron play like sh*t and everyone else takes the blame. I’ve watched Bron get multiple good players traded and multiple good coaches fired.

Congrats to Bron on all those stats and numbers, but he can’t be a GOAT constantly failing and surrounded by controversy

justin747 said fu*k no. I already know you never watched Jordan play. Your opinion is worthless I’ve watched Bron choke and fail multiple times. I’ve watched Bron play like sh*t and everyone else takes the blame. I’ve watched Bron get multiple good players traded and multiple good coaches fired. Congrats to Bron on all those stats and numbers, but he can’t be a GOAT constantly failing and surrounded by controversy

So would it have been better if bron failed like Jordan and got smoked in the first and 2nd round of the playoffs instead of going to the finals and losing against some of the most stacked teams in nba history?

Just2shmoove said I'm a d*ck sucking LeBron fanboy f*g**t!!

Fun Facts about Wizards Jordan...

Facts about Jordan's time with the Washington Wizards: - The Wizards the previous season were 19-63 (14th in East, 27th in NBA) and were the worst defensive team in the league. MJ was the only major addition to the team and at the All Star break, the Wizards were 3rd in the East with a 26-21 record, despite having a poor start to the season. They also were a top 5 defensive team in the entire NBA at the All Star break. This was all before MJs injury. Which occurred 46 games into the season.

Before his injury, MJ for the first 46 games was averaging 25.1, 6.2 RPG, 5.3 APG, 1.5 SPG, 0.5 BPG on 42.1 FG%. He was getting better as the season went along. So were the Wizards team. In the last 20 games leading up to the injury, MJ was averaging 27.5 PPG, 6.4 RPG, 5.2 APG, 1.3 SPG, 0.5 BPG on 44.2 FG%. In the last 10 games leading up to the injury, MJ was averaging 29.7 PPG, 6.6 RPG, 6.1 APG, 1.2 SPG, 0.3 BPG on 47.2 FG%. People forget that MJ was on minutes restriction for many games after his injury. In his last 7 games, he didn't even start. He only averaged 21.0 MPG in those games. These games heavily brought down his averages.

MJ had torn a tendon in his finger with a cigar cutter on accident after the Bulls won the championship in 1998. It never fully healed and he was never able to bend it all the way and it affected his ball handling and shooting when he came back to play for the Wizards. Another thing people forget is that prior to the season MJ had his ribs broken by Metta World Peace in a pickup game. So not only was MJ dealing with a serious injury before the season began, he also hasn't played professional basketball in Three entire seasons. Despite this, he was having a great season and only getting better as the season progressed. After his injury (46 games into season), the Wizards fell out of the playoffs and fell to the bottom 10 defensively.

Jordan could've easily gone to a more talented Eastern conference team like the Heat, Nets or Celtics. Instead he played more for fun when he came back in 2001. Or he could've gone to the Spurs or Lakers and got an easy ring.

Jordan was also sabotaged by Abe Pollin who was angry with Jordan for publicly humiliating him in front of everyone in 1998 during the lockout. Wes Unseld who was the GM and Susan O'Malley who was the president of the Wizards.

Jordan could've chased rings but he had too much integrity to do that.

Don't respond again you lying d*ck riding LeBron fanboy f*g**t.

Just2shmoove said So would it have been better if bron failed like Jordan and got smoked in the first and 2nd round of the playoffs instead of going to the finals and losing against some of the most stacked teams in nba history?

A loss is a loss. I don’t care if you lose in the first round like Bron did to the Suns or the finals like Bron lost to the Warriors and Mave, you’re a LOSER. There’s no way to “lose better “

And you complaining about the most stacked teams in the NBA like Bron didn’t have the 1st, 4th, and 5th draft picks from the 2003 draft on the same team

Imagine Jordan teaming up with Olajuwon and Barkley and complaining about other super teams.

Just2shmoove said I can't refute anything you said so I'm going to hate on Jordan anyway because I have no integrity whatsoever.

Michael Jordan retired three times and missed three years of his prime and still has more regular season MVPs, Finals MVPs, scoring titles and DPOY than LeBron.

Jordan was also robbed of five MVPs in 87, 89, 90, 93 and 97 and should've won 7 consecutive regular season MVPs and 10 overall.

Jordan is the consensus GOAT and the GOAT of GOATs and there's nothing you or Jordan's detractors and haters can do or say about it.

King Am I said Fun Facts about Wizards Jordan... Facts about Jordan's time with the Washington Wizards: - The Wizards the previous season were 19-63 (14th in East, 27th in NBA) and were the worst defensive team in the league. MJ was the only major addition to the team and at the All Star break, the Wizards were 3rd in the East with a 26-21 record, despite having a poor start to the season. They also were a top 5 defensive team in the entire NBA at the All Star break. This was all before MJs injury. Which occurred 46 games into the season. Before his injury, MJ for the first 46 games was averaging 25.1, 6.2 RPG, 5.3 APG, 1.5 SPG, 0.5 BPG on 42.1 FG%. He was getting better as the season went along. So were the Wizards team. In the last 20 games leading up to the injury, MJ was averaging 27.5 PPG, 6.4 RPG, 5.2 APG, 1.3 SPG, 0.5 BPG on 44.2 FG%. In the last 10 games leading up to the injury, MJ was averaging 29.7 PPG, 6.6 RPG, 6.1 APG, 1.2 SPG, 0.3 BPG on 47.2 FG%. People forget that MJ was on minutes restriction for many games after his injury. In his last 7 games, he didn't even start. He only averaged 21.0 MPG in those games. These games heavily brought down his averages. MJ had torn a tendon in his finger with a cigar cutter on accident after the Bulls won the championship in 1998. It never fully healed and he was never able to bend it all the way and it affected his ball handling and shooting when he came back to play for the Wizards. Another thing people forget is that prior to the season MJ had his ribs broken by Metta World Peace in a pickup game. So not only was MJ dealing with a serious injury before the season began, he also hasn't played professional basketball in Three entire seasons. Despite this, he was having a great season and only getting better as the season progressed. After his injury (46 games into season), the Wizards fell out of the playoffs and fell to the bottom 10 defensively. Jordan could've easily gone to a more talented Eastern conference team like the Heat, Nets or Celtics. Instead he played more for fun when he came back in 2001. Or he could've gone to the Spurs or Lakers and got an easy ring. Jordan was also sabotaged by Abe Pollin who was angry with Jordan for publicly humiliating him in front of everyone in 1998 during the lockout. Wes Unseld who was the GM and Susan O'Malley who was the president of the Wizards. Jordan could've chased rings but he had too much integrity to do that. Don't respond again you lying d*ck riding LeBron fanboy f*g**t.

Point out just ONE lie. The year bron didn’t go to the playoffs with AD was the year AD missed 42 games and got hurt again in the playoffs. You gave me all those stats followed by injury this and injury that but didn’t mention brons injuries last year. You a whole grown a*s man d*ck sucking a n*gga that don’t even know you breathe air. Are we having a debate or are you white knighting? Please make sure you show me the lie.

justin747 said A loss is a loss. I don’t care if you lose in the first round like Bron did to the Suns or the finals like Bron lost to the Warriors and Mave, you’re a LOSER. There’s no way to “lose better “ And you complaining about the most stacked teams in the NBA like Bron didn’t have the 1st, 4th, and 5th draft picks from the 2003 draft on the same team Imagine Jordan teaming up with Olajuwon and Barkley and complaining about other super teams.

Scottie and Rodman had better careers than both of those draft picks you mentioned but I guess in your world that means nothing lol bron also joined wade and only got w healthy seasons out of him

Just2shmoove said 3 active players on the 75th anniversary NBA team and five hall of famers and COULDN'T make the play-in or playoffs.

justin747 said fu*k no. I already know you never watched Jordan play. Your opinion is worthless I’ve watched Bron choke and fail multiple times. I’ve watched Bron play like sh*t and everyone else takes the blame. I’ve watched Bron get multiple good players traded and multiple good coaches fired. Congrats to Bron on all those stats and numbers, but he can’t be a GOAT constantly failing and surrounded by controversy

So you tell me that nobody else cares

I'm telling you the NBA itself cares

And now it's irrelevant.

Have a good night man. Added to my block list for being a f*g**t!

King Am I said Michael Jordan retired three times and missed three years of his prime and still has more regular season MVPs, Finals MVPs, scoring titles and DPOY than LeBron. Jordan was also robbed of five MVPs in 87, 89, 90, 93 and 97 and should've won 7 consecutive regular season MVPs and 10 overall. Jordan is the consensus GOAT and the GOAT of GOATs and there's nothing you or Jordan's detractors and haters can do or say about it.

Lebron was robbed of multiple mvps, a DPOY and was 1 game from a scoring title last year. The competition level and average skill of an nba player now is drastically better than anything that was put on an nba floor in the 80’s and 90’s. I’m not even a detractor. I didn’t even once say lebron was the goat. I simply told you and the other people slobbing Jordan d*ck that y’all are hating on bron and not giving credit where it’s due.

Stopped at “carried”

Dray Goon wildin

Just2shmoove said Scottie and Rodman had better careers than both of those draft picks you mentioned but I guess in your world that means nothing lol bron also joined wade and only got w healthy seasons out of him

Ok so now Scottie and Rodman with his 5 ppg are better than Wade and Bosh??

And that’s only when you’re pushing a narrative, because Rodman was a “plumber” on the Pistons right?



Rodman on the Pistons:

“Jordan played against weak teams”



Rodman on the Bulls:

“Jordan’s teams were stacked!!”