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Aug 14 - Rolling Stone: Epstein/Clinton conspiracies go mainstream
 

 
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With Jeffrey Epstein’s death, Conspiracy Theories Have Officially Gone Mainstream

In the era of Trump, Big Tech, and the virulent spread of misinformation, it’s hard not to feel like we’re moving closer and closer toward a post-truth dystopia where facts have officially taken a backseat to incendiary or politically divisive theory. Last Saturday, however, arguably marked a turning point in the evolution of fake news, a moment when the mainstreaming of misinformation sprang from mere hypothetical to verifiable reality.

It all began in the early hours of Saturday morning, when news broke that Jeffrey Epstein, the financier-turned-convicted s*x offender who was arrested last month on s*x trafficking charges, had been found dead in his cell at Metropolitan Correctional Center (MCC), a federal jail in New York City. Early reports from MCC indicated that he had died by suicide.

To those following the case, the timing of Epstein’s death, not to mention the circumstances surrounding it, was shocking, to say the least. A mere three weeks before his passing, Epstein had been rushed to the hospital following a reported suicide attempt, which led him to be placed on suicide watch and under close supervision by MCC guards. It was later reported that he was not on suicide watch at the time, for reasons that still remain unclear, a fact that sparked outrage and intense suspicion. Perhaps even more to the point, Epstein’s death came just a day after thousands of court documents from a previous lawsuit were released, thus implicating many famous and powerful men, including Prince Andrew, billionaire Glenn Dubin, and former Gov. Bill Richardson.

Almost immediately, the social media misinformation machine went into overdrive. Among the usual suspects on the far-right, most conspiracy theories centered around the fact that former President Bill Clinton, a former Epstein crony, had ordered a hit on Epstein in prison, dredging up a decades-old conspiracy theory and causing terms like #ClintonBodyCount and #Arkanicide to trend. (President Trump later endorsed this theory by retweeting a post by conspiracy theorist Terrence K. Williams, which said, “#JefferyEpstein had information on Bill Clinton & now he’s dead.”) Many on the left followed suit, accusing Trump of having orchestrated a hit on Epstein in prison, resulting in the #TrumpBodyCount hashtag. One theory promoted by indie pop band Foster the People was that Epstein had faked his own death, tweeting New York Post photos of Epstein’s corpse and comparing them to photos taken of the financier while he was alive. “My guess is, Epstein’s on a private plane to somewhere in the middle east getting prepped for plastic surgery right now,” the account tweeted.

What was so surprising about these conspiracy theories was not that they existed; due to Epstein’s wealth and high-powered social network, the financier and his “little black book” had served as conspiracy theory fodder for years, with the Miami Herald‘s November 2018 investigation into the government’s mishandling of his 2007 s*xual abuse conviction bringing it to the mainstream. What was different this weekend was who was promoting them. Public figures from Joe Scarborough to former Senator Claire McCaskill to Billions showrunner Brian Koppelman to Washington Post reporter Carol Leonnig, who questioned the suicide narrative by tweeting that sources had described him as “being in good spirits in recent days,” took their turn poking holes in the official narrative. Even economist Paul Krugman dabbled in some light conspiracy theorizing, tweeting, If we were living in a paranoid fantasy universe, I would be very suspicious about the Epstein suicide, even about whether it was really suicide. And you know what? The Epstein case itself shows that we *are* kind of living in a paranoid fantasy universe.”

If one spent enough time on social media, it’d be fairly easy to conclude that the belief that Epstein would rather take his own life than face his accusers in court was actually something of a fringe position. “It was a moment, really, of collective fictions being written,” Joan Donovan, director of the Technology and Social Change (TaSC) Research Project at Harvard’s Shorenstein Center, tells Rolling Stone. “People were participating in this discourse and adding different pieces to these theories and all these unprovable a*sertions.” It was as if, a friend later told me, everyone who followed the deaths on social media was being radicalized at the same time, his death proving a testament to the power of bipartisanship in the most embarrassing possible way. “It’s like we’re all being Jeffpilled,” he said, a reference to “red-pilling,” or the term men on the far-right use to describe the process of their radicalization.

Though we know very little about the circumstances surrounding Epstein’s death, it’s undoubtedly true that the official narrative, as it stands now, poses a lot of unanswered questions. Reports that Epstein was no longer on suicide watch, and that he was not being closely monitored by guards every 30 minutes as is standard procedure, points to gross incompetence at best, as does the news that his cellmate had been moved after he was taken off suicide watch, a significant deviation from prison protocol. “I was appalled, and indeed the whole department was, and frankly angry, to learn of the MCC’s failure to adequately secure this prisoner,” attorney general William Barr said on Monday regarding MCC’s handling of the situation. (MCC has not responded to requests for comment.)

In the absence of answers to these questions, there’s ample room for people to draw their own conclusions about what happened to Epstein, says Jennifer Grygiel, a*sistant professor of communication at the S.I. Newhouse School of Public Communications at Syracuse University. “Conspiracy theories take off anytime there is mass consensus around something or the inability to disprove something easily,” they say. The lack of transparency surrounding federal penitentiary protocols, combined with the already-immense media interest in the case and the timing of Epstein’s death, created a perfect storm for conspiracy theorists of all stripes.

Twitter’s amplification of the numerous Epstein-related conspiracy theories, combined with the media’s amplification of Twitter’s amplification of the conspiracy theories, perfected the conditions for chaos and misinformation to thrive. In addition to #TrumpBodyCount and #ClintonBodyCount, #ClintonCrimeFamily, #Arkanicide, #Epsteinmurder, and even just #Clintons were trending at various times on Saturday. The fact that these hashtags were actively being featured in the platform’s trending topics module basically ensured that millions of users eager for more information on a breaking news story would be fed false, incendiary, and arguably politically damaging information. The fact that users are incentivized to engage with hashtags to boost their own content only served to further disseminate that information. (Twitter has previously said that it considers “the newsworthiness of the content, or if it is in the public interest” when evaluating whether to feature a trending topic — though as Saturday’s “Disinformation World Cup” proved, it often does whether the content is verifiably true or not.)

Of course, it’s not particularly novel to note that in the absence of traditional gatekeepers, social media creates the ideal conditions for misinformation to thrive; nor is it a new observation that the platforms play a large role in boosting it. What made the Epstein case unique, however, was the sheer amount of unfounded speculation from from people with massive platforms, on all sides of the political spectrum — and even, in some cases, from those who have traditionally (and correctly) taken Trump to task for propagating conspiracy theories of his own. Whether you agree that someone like, say, Joe Scarborough deserves the label of gatekeeper or arbiter of truth, the fact remains that he has it — and while dipping a toe in the pool of baseless speculation is not the same as pulling a Trump and cannonballing right in, it is highly dispiriting, to say the least, to see them swimming in the same waters.

It’s tough to overstate just how deleterious such rampant theorizing from high-profile sources is to the public conversation, says Donovan. While we can’t discount the role bots may have played in promoting hashtags like #ClintonBodyCount, “I personally think in moments like this, it doesn’t necessarily require that kind of wedge amplification for this to become a very destabilizing issue because of the types of people participating in the discourse,” she says. That applies doubly for journalists, even those who dabbled in conspiratorial rhetoric without directly engaging in it. “We’re in this trust crisis with journalism itself already. Contributing to conspiracy-making really tilts the scales further toward distrust of the media.”

Platforms like Twitter are not perfect mirrors of the national discourse, in that they “distort and magnify” preexisting conversations that happen IRL, says Donovan. But it’s also increasingly impossible to ignore the impact social media has on our lived realities, and it would be naive to pretend the ill-informed, hyper-politically charged conversations we have on the internet are totally distinct from those we have in real life. And in scrolling through my Twitter feed on Saturday, I had the distinct feeling that what I was watching was not just the churn of yet another news cycle dominated by sensationalist hot takes (though there was that), or yet another opportunity to take the platforms to task for not providing enough oversight (though there was that too). To be honest, it felt much bigger than that. What I thought I was seeing was both the beginning and the end: the beginning of an Epstein conspiracy theory industrial complex used as a political rallying cry, as Conspiracy of Lies author Anna Merlan wrote, but also, more generally, the end of an information ecosystem that at least feints at asking questions before pretending to have the answers.

I ran this by Grygiel, expecting her to dismiss it offhand, but what she told me the rise of conspiracy theories actually might portend was more horrifying than what I’d thought. “Twenty years from now, people are going to get so much exposure from thoughts and ideas from a multitude of sources, so their perception of reality will be more amorphous,” they say. “It’s just too much content, too many sources for us to all have the same lived experience in reality.” Because conspiracy theories don’t just alter the way we view the news cycle. They fundamentally alter the way we process information, and in so doing, change the way we view the world ourselves.
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 1 week ago '07        #2
stogz 20 heat pts20
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Here's how i know trump did it.


.... he blamed clinton for it. Case closed.


Every time this orange fur ball calls someone else weak, he's the one who caves to someone. He said hilary was a criminal that should be locked up, it was he who was the criminal his entire life but especially since 2015 and should be locked up. He says he will drain the swamp, his administration is nothing but rotating swamp. SAys he's not racist, does countless racist sh*t. Chastises someone else for bad language, proceeds to curse in public forum. Says that dems rig elections, proceeds to rig elections. He's the king of projecting and being a blatant hypocrite. So if he says someone else committed a crime, you best believe he committed that crime already.
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 1 week ago '17        #3
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People wanna believe in anything but before people do, they should ask themselves practical questions.

If Hillary/Clintons were really as involved in as many murders and as much criminal conspiracy as the alt right claims - why were there

0 indictments
0 subpoena's
0 investigations

during the almost 3 year span that the GOP controlled not only every branch of government, but the justice department, crazy judge appointees... they basically control every aspect of the government and haven't even started one investigation.

According to Q-Anon hillary's going to be raided and arrested every other week, of course we don't listen to what doens't happen. We listen to the 5% that does happen and think its anything other then a coincidence because want to believe this sh*t.

Please objectively ask yourself practical common sense questions before buying into sh*t like this - it's not about Hillary; it's not about the Clinton's; it's about the alt-rights ability to manipulate public opinion enough that it damages our country through voting and foreign intelligence operations. They're already doing it again with AOC, they are laying the groundwork early because she could be the future, and she's a person who's threatening to their dangerous ideology who is ambitious, charismatic and convicted enough to change it.

If Hillary/The Clintons were really 1/10th the monsters that they are portrayed as Trump being the neurotic sociopath that he is would have ordered investigations, sent his DOJ after them because it would galvanize his base like no other. It was a campaign promise to lock her up, but really it was just a catch phrase to get the rubes and uneducated voters in critical areas to glom onto him just like build the wall.

His two biggest phrases were just empty pandering.


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 1 week ago '14        #4
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 1 week ago '17        #5
Ymmot 22 heat pts22
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People have lost their damn minds. The internet is going to be the downfall of America because there are so many gullible stupid a*s people in this country.
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 1 week ago '17        #6
LostTenets 291 heat pts291
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Obviously biased

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I won't be looking for any truth regarding conspiracies in rolling Stone MAGAzine
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 1 week ago '14        #8
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 LostTenets said
I won't be looking for any truth regarding conspiracies in rolling Stone MAGAzine
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 1 week ago '19        #9
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 stogz said
Here's how i know trump did it.


.... he blamed clinton for it. Case closed.


Every time this orange fur ball calls someone else weak, he's the one who caves to someone. He said hilary was a criminal that should be locked up, it was he who was the criminal his entire life but especially since 2015 and should be locked up. He says he will drain the swamp, his administration is nothing but rotating swamp. SAys he's not racist, does countless racist sh*t. Chastises someone else for bad language, proceeds to curse in public forum. Says that dems rig elections, proceeds to rig elections. He's the king of projecting and being a blatant hypocrite. So if he says someone else committed a crime, you best believe he committed that crime already.
Y’all really believe trump who has been putting Epstein’s sh*t on blast for years. Then becomes president and Epstein gets locked up is responsible for this

Y’all are really that dumb
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 1 week ago '19        #10
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 Ymmot said
People have lost their damn minds. The internet is going to be the downfall of America because there are so many gullible stupid a*s people in this country.
You a die hard hilary voter

Talking about gullible

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 1 week ago '14        #11
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 GingerNinjaHTX said
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 7 days ago '08        #12
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 LostTenets said
I won't be looking for any truth regarding conspiracies in rolling Stone MAGAzine
For real!!!!

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 Gold Face said
You a die hard hilary voter

Talking about gullible

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 7 days ago '17        #14
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 Gold Face said
You a die hard hilary voter

Talking about gullible

I'm a level headed person talking about a bunch of virgin nerds on the internet who think they can find a conspiracy in every event by talking to other virgin nerds on message boards and sharing youtube videos and memes made by other virgin nerds. But I get it, this is your domain and I'm always gonna be some "shill" outsider voice of reason. So I'm gonna leave you nerds to your little sanctuary of idiocracy. Have fun wasting the rest of your life in online forums.
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 7 days ago '19        #15
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 Ymmot said
I'm a level headed person talking about a bunch of virgin nerds on the internet who think they can find a conspiracy in every event by talking to other virgin nerds on message boards and sharing youtube videos and memes made by other virgin nerds. But I get it, this is your domain and I'm always gonna be some "shill" outsider voice of reason. So I'm gonna leave you nerds to your little sanctuary of idiocracy. Have fun wasting the rest of your life in online forums.
The only thing I get is your continuously wrong and you can’t accept it


Mysterious billionaire with private island full of underage children for s*x. Clinton’s owning a foundation with him and spending many weeks abroad his private s*x plan isn’t conspicuous at all

This is who you and your “level head” voted for

Level head aka sheep who accepts this statistical anomaly as just the norm


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 7 days ago '05        #16
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 Aries said
this a real pic?

 7 days ago '16        #17
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 Stuart Scott said
this a real pic?
no

 7 days ago '15        #18
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 Stuart Scott said
this a real pic?
lol no

 7 days ago '06        #20
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 Class of 2017 said
People wanna believe in anything but before people do, they should ask themselves practical questions.

If Hillary/Clintons were really as involved in as many murders and as much criminal conspiracy as the alt right claims - why were there

0 indictments
0 subpoena's
0 investigations


during the almost 3 year span that the GOP controlled not only every branch of government, but the justice department, crazy judge appointees... they basically control every aspect of the government and haven't even started one investigation.

According to Q-Anon hillary's going to be raided and arrested every other week, of course we don't listen to what doens't happen. We listen to the 5% that does happen and think its anything other then a coincidence because want to believe this sh*t.

Please objectively ask yourself practical common sense questions before buying into sh*t like this - it's not about Hillary; it's not about the Clinton's; it's about the alt-rights ability to manipulate public opinion enough that it damages our country through voting and foreign intelligence operations. They're already doing it again with AOC, they are laying the groundwork early because she could be the future, and she's a person who's threatening to their dangerous ideology who is ambitious, charismatic and convicted enough to change it.

If Hillary/The Clintons were really 1/10th the monsters that they are portrayed as Trump being the neurotic sociopath that he is would have ordered investigations, sent his DOJ after them because it would galvanize his base like no other. It was a campaign promise to lock her up, but really it was just a catch phrase to get the rubes and uneducated voters in critical areas to glom onto him just like build the wall.

His two biggest phrases were just empty pandering.
because they have the POWER to avoid all of that....
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 7 days ago '17        #21
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 TreZ said
because they have the POWER to avoid all of that....
I respectfully disagree, the power is all in Trump's hands right now unless you believe in multiple contingency conspiracy theories which again brings us back full circle and why the fallacy you believe is so dangerous. There's always another uncorroborated, unverified layer to validate all previous unverifiable layers and they feed into eachother into a big circle of fu*k that amounts to nothing because nothing is provable or tangible.

If he wanted it to happen, it would happen and he would stamp his feet and rattle the cage until it did.

 7 days ago '15        #22
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 Class of 2017 said
I respectfully disagree, the power is all in Trump's hands right now unless you believe in multiple contingency conspiracy theories which again brings us back full circle and why the fallacy you believe is so dangerous. There's always another uncorroborated, unverified layer to validate all previous unverifiable layers and they feed into eachother into a big circle of fu*k that amounts to nothing because nothing is provable or tangible.

If he wanted it to happen, it would happen and he would stamp his feet and rattle the cage until it did.




The Clinton family is a crime family . Just like the Kennedy Family .



 7 days ago '04        #23
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 MemphisBleek said
this sh*t is fu*king weird bro

here's a hi res of the original painting:



this dude epstein really had this up in his home, wtf.

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 d.c. supreme said
this sh*t is fu*king weird bro

here's a hi res of the original painting:



this dude epstein really had this up in his home, wtf.
Any n*gga denying any of this sh*t is a paid agent for the government . All these n*ggas nasty. Dems and Reps. fu*k all them .

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 Gold Face said
Y’all really believe trump who has been putting Epstein’s sh*t on blast for years. Then becomes president and Epstein gets locked up is responsible for this

Y’all are really that dumb
You're right. Trump dont need Epstein. He just fu*ks his own daughter
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