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 4 days ago '16        #21
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 2Cold said:
yall might be some of the dumbest people if you actually believe lebron doesnt know how to get open



he cuts better than almost every player except shooters like red!ck, klay, curry, korver, etc.



this is why i dont ever really argue on here cause yall dont really know what the fu*k yall be saying

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he times his runs he doesnt need to run around the whole court until he create some opening. he waits for his defender to turn their head and goes to the right spot almost everytime. when he had guys like kyrie, mo williams and wade who had their heads up when driving see him cutting and get their nightly highlight a.ssists


But see the problem with the people you just described is that they are MOBILE cutters. You will not find a game when Klay, Korver, Red!ck etc aren't running around for the entirety of the shot clock, unless there's an oddball screen (or 2) designed to get them open enough to shoot. LeBron does NOT do that.

You right, he capitalizes off a slasher drawing away a defense's attention and then goes straight towards the lane. But be real, that means he's exploiting a zone. There were very few instances of that video you just showed where LeBron does that against man defence. You got to admit, he struggles to get open (Easily and in the post) against defenses that stick one n*gga one him.

Now you gonna say, aight cool, LeBrons playing against man, he'll go to work. But how often did that NOT work against the Celtics or against Western Conference teams in the regular season. No shade on the man's name but he really could improve as an off ball player.
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 4 days ago '15        #22
Mtyjoejnblkblnd 57 heat pts57
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leBron can easily play off ball well and has but casuals only watch highlight tapes, how any oops was he thrown to by KI and wad alone(and that's only one example). he had to have the ball in his hands a lot this last season because it was the best chance they had at winning and the sh*t took them all the way to the finals. not to mention no other cav was a competent enough passer/playmaker other than Bron. you put it in your best player's hands and they make plays, bro had to do everything for that cavs team last season.

Also your stat is a lie. when IT was there he averaged 5 apg and when wade was there he averaged 4, not to mention george hill averaged 3 apg. and clarkson is a combo guard who's a scorer who's never averaged over 4(once at that) apg before or with the cavs.

LeBron the most scrutinized athlete of all time.

when he isn't scoring a lot he's too passive and is carried and doesn't have that cold blooded instinct.


when he's aggressive and scoring a lot and making plays every trip down, he's a ball hog who can't play without the rock.


can't please some of these mofos.


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 4 days ago '14        #23
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 2Cold said:
yall might be some of the dumbest people if you actually believe lebron doesnt know how to get open



he cuts better than almost every player except shooters like red!ck, klay, curry, korver, etc.



this is why i dont ever really argue on here cause yall dont really know what the fu*k yall be saying


he times his runs he doesnt need to run around the whole court until he create some opening. he waits for his defender to turn their head and goes to the right spot almost everytime. when he had guys like kyrie, mo williams and wade who had their heads up when driving see him cutting and get their nightly highlight a.ssists


Let's not forget the dunk he almost made when they beat the warriors. That could have easily been his most memorable score EVER. But he got fouled, so it is what it is.
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 4 days ago '04        #24
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 SlimBobby said:
But see the problem with the people you just described is that they are MOBILE cutters. You will not find a game when Klay, Korver, Red!ck etc aren't running around for the entirety of the shot clock, unless there's an oddball screen (or 2) designed to get them open enough to shoot. LeBron does NOT do that.

You right, he capitalizes off a slasher drawing away a defense's attention and then goes straight towards the lane. But be real, that means he's exploiting a zone. There were very few instances of that video you just showed where LeBron does that against man defence. You got to admit, he struggles to get open (Easily and in the post) against defenses that stick one n*gga one him.

Now you gonna say, aight cool, LeBrons playing against man, he'll go to work. But how often did that NOT work against the Celtics or against Western Conference teams in the regular season. No shade on the man's name but he really could improve as an off ball player.
Yo @ dat n*gga str8up said fu*k yo video evidence Imma stick wit my nonsense and tell you why what da fu*k I just watched ain't really what I watched

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 CamburyBXGreat said:
What does that have to do with Lebron playing off ball? Chalmers and Wade is enough for him to play off ball.
Cam stop...You saying Chalmers like he nice...You think Chalmers is better at getting passes off than Rondo and Zo? Come on man...And even if his averages were close to anyone named in a.ssists you gotta remember his job was EZ having the "big 4" to pass to....Lakers don't have that luxury...one day you gonna admit the real reason behind your hate for the people you do and go hard...till then...FYI Rondo passing >>>>Wade and by the looks of it Zo passing >>>Wade...
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 4 days ago '04        #26
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 Genius Millionaire said:
He did


In Miami itís the same thing. Only 3.1 players average more than 2 a.ssists playing with him.


This is a great chance to improve. Because Ball not ready to catch a Rondo pass.

Rondo
Zo

Kuz
Bron
Mac


Lance
Hart
Svri
BI
Mo
Zub
you want 2 non shooting pg's on the floor at the same time ?


 4 days ago '12        #27
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 2Cold said:
yall might be some of the dumbest people if you actually believe lebron doesnt know how to get open



he cuts better than almost every player except shooters like red!ck, klay, curry, korver, etc.



this is why i dont ever really argue on here cause yall dont really know what the fu*k yall be saying


he times his runs he doesnt need to run around the whole court until he create some opening. he waits for his defender to turn their head and goes to the right spot almost everytime. when he had guys like kyrie, mo williams and wade who had their heads up when driving see him cutting and get their nightly highlight a.ssists




Shut this thread down

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 SlimBobby said:
But see the problem with the people you just described is that they are MOBILE cutters. You will not find a game when Klay, Korver, Red!ck etc aren't running around for the entirety of the shot clock, unless there's an oddball screen (or 2) designed to get them open enough to shoot. LeBron does NOT do that.

You right, he capitalizes off a slasher drawing away a defense's attention and then goes straight towards the lane. But be real, that means he's exploiting a zone. There were very few instances of that video you just showed where LeBron does that against man defence. You got to admit, he struggles to get open (Easily and in the post) against defenses that stick one n*gga one him.

Now you gonna say, aight cool, LeBrons playing against man, he'll go to work. But how often did that NOT work against the Celtics or against Western Conference teams in the regular season. No shade on the man's name but he really could improve as an off ball player.
first off no team runs an exclusively man or zone defense they incorporate some measures of both at all time

and secondly read this to understand how the cavs run their offense and the different varieties of their main sets





and then tell me how the key offensive player in all their half court sets is able to run around

most guys that run around the full shot clock means they are opportunists that rarely average more than 10 to 12 shots..

also all time greats dont have the luxury of being absent from the offense at any point they are in the game


when lebron does play weak side he cuts to the right spots, which you admitted, so what more do you want him to do? to set screens? he does. to hit screens and shoot? or drive? or throw it to the open man? or reset the play? he does.

and you cant be serious he struggles to recieve the pass in the post on top off not knowing how to get open.. yall on some good sh*t today



the guy that remembers every play in chronological order is the guy yall are telling me doesnt understand how to play off the ball now.. this is a new low tbh


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 4 days ago '15        #29
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 Mutant Boy said:
Let's not forget the dunk he almost made when they beat the warriors. That could have easily been his most memorable score EVER. But he got fouled, so it is what it is.

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terrible off the ball because he missed the dunk



 Young Fab said:
Yo @ dat n*gga str8up said fu*k yo video evidence Imma stick wit my nonsense and tell you why what da fu*k I just watched ain't really what I watched

i dont get it bro
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 4 days ago '07        #30
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 2Cold said:
low a.ssists from other players does not equate to him not getting open


numbers dont lie but how you use them do
I watched the playoffs and noticed he didnít. Looked at the stats and saw I was right. You think Iím a regular b-ball fan but Iím not. No one feeds LeBron. Thatís how you get a.ssist monkey.

 dubsax said:
Start by watching the games and not the boxscores.
Stats have nothing to do with how he moves with out the ball.

No other player averaged many a.ssists playing with john stockton either.
Heís never won a chip either. And I think youíre lying Utah moved the ball well. I watch them because they drafted Blue.

 gh3tto said:
you want 2 non shooting pg's on the floor at the same time ?


Ball movement
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 dubsax said:
Start by watching the games and not the boxscores.
Stats have nothing to do with how he moves with out the ball.

No other player averaged many a.ssists playing with john stockton either.
Stockton averaged 13 a.ssists game and still had 5 teammates who averaged more than 2 a.ssists. You just throwing ish out there to refute the facts.


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 Mutant Boy said:
Let's not forget the dunk he almost made when they beat the warriors. That could have easily been his most memorable score EVER. But he got fouled, so it is what it is.
Real question ....you said Ron Metta is from your hood, is he not from QB and not the BX or you lived throughout the boroughs? Secondly if you was at the Palace when the in crowd beef popped, would you have joined in to defend RA???
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 Genius Millionaire said:
Stockton averaged 13 a.ssists game and still had 5 teams who averaged more than 2 a.ssists. You just throwing ish out there to refute the facts.
Was wondering dudes outlook...only thing that may sit is maybe magic shined and didn't leave the Lakers cuz he caught the ninja...but doubt it...Karl Malone played a huge part in that record...but either way Stockton was nice ..don't let BX tell you he's white and sucks, but I can guarantee you can score buckets on BX favorite who claim a injury set them back ...lol
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 2Cold said:
yall might be some of the dumbest people if you actually believe lebron doesnt know how to get open



he cuts better than almost every player except shooters like red!ck, klay, curry, korver, etc.



this is why i dont ever really argue on here cause yall dont really know what the fu*k yall be saying


he times his runs he doesnt need to run around the whole court until he create some opening. he waits for his defender to turn their head and goes to the right spot almost everytime. when he had guys like kyrie, mo williams and wade who had their heads up when driving see him cutting and get their nightly highlight a.ssists



You can't use facts while taking to these weirdos... They just regurgitate Skip Bagless' arguments over n over.
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 tokinjohn said:
Real question ....you said Ron Metta is from your hood, is he not from QB and not the BX or you lived throughout the boroughs? Secondly if you was at the Palace when the in crowd beef popped, would you have joined in to defend RA???
I have lived in all the boroughs. Yes, even staten island, but I was only there for 2 months tho.

And now at my age, NO! I would not jump in. Back when that happened, YES! I would have foolishly wanted those props around my way lmao
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CaLis LEGACY 82 heat pts82
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This is a completely different system for him. I believe it can compliment his game better than before
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 2Cold said:
yall might be some of the dumbest people if you actually believe lebron doesnt know how to get open



he cuts better than almost every player except shooters like red!ck, klay, curry, korver, etc.



this is why i dont ever really argue on here cause yall dont really know what the fu*k yall be saying


he times his runs he doesnt need to run around the whole court until he create some opening. he waits for his defender to turn their head and goes to the right spot almost everytime. when he had guys like kyrie, mo williams and wade who had their heads up when driving see him cutting and get their nightly highlight a.ssists


This... I was laughing at the posts saying he can’t play off the ball...
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This is the best team LeBrons ever played with
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 4 days ago '12        #39
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wait did these idiots really say bron can't play off ball??


thank you @ for shutting that dumb sh*t down

glad to see an actual good post among the sea of casuals like you know who
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 tokinjohn said:
Cam stop...You saying Chalmers like he nice...You think Chalmers is better at getting passes off than Rondo and Zo? Come on man...And even if his averages were close to anyone named in a.ssists you gotta remember his job was EZ having the "big 4" to pass to....Lakers don't have that luxury...one day you gonna admit the real reason behind your hate for the people you do and go hard...till then...FYI Rondo passing >>>>Wade and by the looks of it Zo passing >>>Wade...
The logic wasn't about Rondo ability to pass it was his a.ssist numbers... Well Wade and Chalmers in the starting line up is enough ball handling and a.ssists that lebron could play off ball. I'm sure them combined equals Rondo last year.
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