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Oct 9 - 8-year old girl, others easily climb model of trump's "impenetrable" border fence
 

 
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When President Donald Trump announced that his signature wall at the U.S.’s southern border would be “virtually impenetrable” while visiting San Diego last month, Rick Weber, who co-founded the Muir Valley rock climbing park in Rogers, Kentucky, was listening.

“You don’t tell a bona fide rock climber something’s impossible to climb,” Weber tells TIME.

Weber took the President’s claim as a challenge. He says he constructed his own replica of the wall, relying on the wall’s official dimensions as well as recent images of the structure. This weekend, Weber is planning to invite climbers attending the “Rocktoberfest” rock climbing festival at the nearby Red River Gorge canyon system in Kentucky to climb the model. Guests will be challenged to compete to climb up and over the wall in the fastest time.

Several people have already managed to climb up the wall replica, including 8-year-old Lucy Hancock. Hancock didn’t use any ropes or other tools to climb the wall, but wore a belay, a safety device designed to catch a falling climber. An adult climber, Erik Kloeker, was up and over the wall in about 40 seconds.

Lucy’s mother, Karla Hancock, tells TIME that her daughter has shown a natural inclination toward politics and rock climbing from a young age. Recently, Karla says Lucy has been interested in immigration, although the third-grader has found the national dialogue about immigration policy to be confusing.

“To her, it’s black and white: If somebody’s hungry, and you have the means to give to them, why couldn’t you?” Hancock says.

In 2017, the Government Accountability Office said that Customs and Border Protection had reported that there were 654 miles of fencing on the border. TIME reported in August that all the walls constructed so far this year have replaced older fencing, but last month Defense Secretary Mark Esper authorized a plan to reallocate $3.6 billion initially set aside for military construction projects to build Trump’s long-touted border wall without congressional approval for the funds. The Defense Department is now aiming to redirect $6.1 billion toward building 295 miles of wall since Trump declared a national emergency in February.

President Trump has said that 20 mountain climbers claimed the border wall design is difficult to climb, but Weber and other climbers have said that seems unlikely.

“We were all very puzzled because none of us in the climbing community had heard of these 20 people that had supposedly tried this wall,” Weber says.


The bollard-style wall at the border, which could also be described as a fence, consists of long, thin columns, with a flat panel that sticks up out of the top. Trump’s wall at the border will be 18 or 30 feet tall in different areas, and Weber says that he decided to construct the smaller, 18-foot dimension to save money. However, Weber says that since the top panel is the same size regardless of the wall’s height, the experience of climbing the higher wall should not be much more difficult, as climbers would only need to “shimmy” a bit further up the pillars.

Weber also says that he decided to allow the climbers to grab the edge of the top panel because he learned that this would be possible when climbing the actual border wall. According to Weber, he’s seen that there are gaps between each panel in photos of the proposed border wall.

Weber says that grabbing the panel’s edge makes climbing the wall a “piece of cake” for a climber. If there were no gaps, Weber estimates that climbers would need to be significantly taller than Lucy — at least about five feet 10 inches tall — to climb up and over the wall.

Weber says that he meant for the climbing competition to be fun, but also wants to point out that the border wall may be “ineffective.”

“I’m not making an argument that we shouldn’t have a secure border. I’m not doing that at all,” he says. “What I’m trying to do is to make sure that we’re not blowing a lot of money on some silly nonsense of putting up something that he thinks can’t be climbed. Because it can. And will be.”

visit this link https://time.com/5694432/ .. -wall-replica/


8 year old climbing that sh*t without ropes or anything. image
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 2 weeks ago '16        #2
OWPE  112 heat pts112
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Funny that model has that concrete thing at the top. Thats not on the US border to help them mount a rope. Shambles





Trumps wall is much taller than that with no rope support at the top. Look at how small Trump and the other adults are at the bottom, now go look at the wall in the photo you posted. The girl is more than halfway up it basically. That image in the OP is fake news




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 2 weeks ago '14        #3
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 OWPE said
Funny that model has that concrete thing at the top. Thats not on the US border to help them mount a rope. Shambles



"Several people have already managed to climb up the wall replica, including 8-year-old Lucy Hancock. Hancock didn’t use any ropes or other tools to climb the wall, but wore a belay, a safety device designed to catch a falling climber."

Reading is fundamental.

To translate, because we know how slow you are, you don't need a rope to climb it.
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 2 weeks ago '08        #4
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 TheRiverStyx said
"Several people have already managed to climb up the wall replica, including 8-year-old Lucy Hancock. Hancock didn’t use any ropes or other tools to climb the wall, but wore a belay, a safety device designed to catch a falling climber."

Reading is fundamental.

To translate, because we know how slow you are, you don't need a rope to climb it.
They don’t even attempt.
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 2 weeks ago '16        #5
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 TheRiverStyx said
"Several people have already managed to climb up the wall replica, including 8-year-old Lucy Hancock. Hancock didn’t use any ropes or other tools to climb the wall, but wore a belay, a safety device designed to catch a falling climber."

Reading is fundamental.

To translate, because we know how slow you are, you don't need a rope to climb it.
Show me how someone is gonna climb that wall picture i posted without a rope.

Serious question for you, why include that weak photo in the article if thats not what is happening? Why not show a picture of the people climbing this "replica"

Shambles. Click on the link of the article and watch their video "evidence". How slow are you?




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 2 weeks ago '14        #6
TheRiverStyx  15 heat pts15
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 OWPE said
Show me how someone is gonna climb that wall picture i posted without a rope.

Serious question for you, why include that weak photo in the article if thats not what is happening? Why not show a picture of the people climbing this "replica"

Shambles




The rope in the picture is a safety measure smart guy...

The picture is trying to show that even a young girl can scale the fence.

Try reading before commenting just once.
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 2 weeks ago '16        #7
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 TheRiverStyx said
The rope in the picture is a safety measure smart guy...

The picture is trying to show that even a young girl can scale the fence.

Try reading before commenting just once.
She cannot scale the fence. Number 1, the fence is much taller. Number 2, she can't grab the fence on the side like how she does in the video.

Once again, go click the link to the article and watch the video demonstration.

The article claims all of this can be done without a rope, yet their video evidence doesn't show anyone scaling without a rope, and definitely not in 40 seconds like the article suggests. The demonstration video on their article is longer than 40 secs, and that wall is not as tall as the real thing. The girl struggles and then grabs the side of the top to help try to get over, which you can't grab cuz there is no side.

Any intelligent person would realize that the video evidence would show someone without a rope doing it in 40 secs........

Since you don't want to watch the video, here's a screenshot of her grabbing the side of the fence which isn't possible to do.








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 2 weeks ago '14        #8
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 OWPE said
She cannot scale the fence. Number 1, the fence is much taller. Number 2, she can't grab the fence on the side like how she does in the video.

Once again, go click the link to the article and watch the video demonstration.

The article claims all of this can be done without a rope, yet their video evidence doesn't show anyone scaling without a rope, and definitely not in 40 seconds like the article suggests. The demonstration video on their article is longer than 40 secs, and that wall is not as tall as the real thing. The girl struggles and then grabs the side of the top to help try to get over, which you can't grab cuz there is no side.

Any intelligent person would realize that the video evidence would show someone without a rope doing it in 40 secs........



I watched the video smart guy. Again, the rope is simply for safety. If the parents hadn't put a safety rope on her you'd be in here screaming child abuse.

Get lost troll.
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 2 weeks ago '10        #9
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 OWPE said
Show me how someone is gonna climb that wall picture i posted without a rope.

Serious question for you, why include that weak photo in the article if thats not what is happening? Why not show a picture of the people climbing this "replica"

Shambles. Click on the link of the article and watch their video "evidence". How slow are you?




Read the article.

Trump’s wall at the border will be 18 or 30 feet tall in different areas, and Weber says that he decided to construct the smaller, 18-foot dimension to save money. However, Weber says that since the top panel is the same size regardless of the wall’s height, the experience of climbing the higher wall should not be much more difficult, as climbers would only need to “shimmy” a bit further up the pillars.
18 or 30 feet, it don't matter. They use the gaps in the fence to straddle with their feet and arms. One guy was able to go over 18 feet in 40 seconds. What's another 12 feet going to accomplish in stopping someone getting to the top.

Maybe we need to listen to trump's ideas about the "moot" with gators.
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 2 weeks ago '19        #10
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 OWPE said
Funny that model has that concrete thing at the top. Thats not on the US border to help them mount a rope. Shambles





Trumps wall is much taller than that with no rope support at the top. Look at how small Trump and the other adults are at the bottom, now go look at the wall in the photo you posted. The girl is more than halfway up it basically. That image in the OP is fake news


stupid drumpf supporter illegals will just easily take a construction crane to the border and plant one on top of the wall!@ iMPeaChhhhh



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 2 weeks ago '19        #11
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 Bandito said
Read the article.



18 or 30 feet, it don't matter. They use the gaps in the fence to straddle with their feet and arms. One guy was able to go over 18 feet in 40 seconds. What's another 12 feet going to accomplish in stopping someone getting to the top.

Maybe we need to listen to trump's ideas about the "moot" with gators.
good luck saddling on a sun-bathed metal object without burning your skin off
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 2 weeks ago '16        #12
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 Bandito said
Read the article.



18 or 30 feet, it don't matter. They use the gaps in the fence to straddle with their feet and arms. One guy was able to go over 18 feet in 40 seconds. What's another 12 feet going to accomplish in stopping someone getting to the top.

Maybe we need to listen to trump's ideas about the "moot" with gators.
Because as seen with this screenshot, they climb on the side of the fence/wall when they get to the top, which isn't possible with the real wall. And also, without a "safety rope" if you fall, thats 30 feet you're falling.

Also, notice how they claim some adult did 18 feet in 40 secs, yet they didn't show any evidence of that. How hard is it, with everyone having a cell phone, to simply record someone for 40 secs? Do you even use your brain?




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 2 weeks ago '10        #13
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 Bucks414 said
good luck saddling on a sun-bathed metal object without burning your skin off
I guess you would climb the fence at night like someone with sense.
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 2 weeks ago '19        #14
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 Bandito said
I guess you would climb the fence at night like someone with sense.
Someone with sense would cross the border legally
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 2 weeks ago '10        #15
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 OWPE said
Because as seen with this screenshot, they climb on the side of the fence/wall when they get to the top, which isn't possible with the real wall. And also, without a "safety rope" if you fall, thats 30 feet you're falling.

Also, notice how they claim some adult did 18 feet in 40 secs, yet they didn't show any evidence of that. How hard is it, with everyone having a cell phone, to simply record someone for 40 secs? Do you even use your brain?




The fence is going to be up all weekend at the climbing event in Kentucky. Pretty sure there will be videos coming out of people climbing it.

This guy was able to do the 18 foot fence in El Paso in less than 10 seconds.



Another thing. They are doing it without ropes or anything else to help them. That doesn't mean it has to be done that way.
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 2 weeks ago '19        #16
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Dumb mufu*kas think the average 8 year old gin scale that sh*t with no rope

More power to those high developed skilled kids

With skills like that you can probably find work in Mexico anyway
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 2 weeks ago '10        #17
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 Gold Face said
Dumb mufu*kas think the average 8 year old gin scale that sh*t with no rope

More power to those high developed skilled kids

With skills like that you can probably find work in Mexico anyway
I know kids that climb that sh*t with ease.
That fence ain't hard to climb. It almost looks like it was designed to be climbed.

Again. Check out how easy it was for this guy. 1 minute mark.


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 2 weeks ago '19        #18
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 Bandito said
I know kids that climb that sh*t with ease.
That fence ain't hard to climb. It almost looks like it was designed to be climbed.

Again. Check out how easy it was for this guy. 1 minute mark.

Lmao shut all the way the fu*k up

1 out of 100,000 kids can climb that sh*t and they get a pass from gold face into the United States for being that skilled

1 out of 10,000 kids can barely climb up the monkey bars without breaking their neck

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 2 weeks ago '10        #19
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 Gold Face said
Lmao shut all the way the fu*k up

1 out of 100,000 kids can climb that sh*t and they get a pass from gold face into the United States for being that skilled

1 out of 10,000 kids can barely climb up the monkey bars without breaking their neck

Just because conservative's children are obese and out of shape don't mean everyone raises their kids that way.
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 2 weeks ago '10        #20
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Put any border wall around my 1 year olds crib and she’s climbing out over the wall.
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 2 weeks ago '07        #21
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I don't get it. You could just throw a long rope over top of it, grab it from the other side and anchor it with something heavy at the bottom. Then just climb the rope.

Am I missing something? Lol
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 OWPE said
Show me how someone is gonna climb that wall picture i posted without a rope.

Serious question for you, why include that weak photo in the article if thats not what is happening? Why not show a picture of the people climbing this "replica"

Shambles. Click on the link of the article and watch their video "evidence". How slow are you?




#ThingsOutOfShapePeopleSay
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 2 weeks ago '16        #23
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The Trump c*ck Gobblers came in here to defend the "un-climbability" of bollard-style fencing?
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 Ghost Terp said
I don't get it. You could just throw a long rope over top of it, grab it from the other side and anchor it with something heavy at the bottom. Then just climb the rope.

Am I missing something? Lol
The part of the article that is being overlooked is where trump was lying again.

President Trump has said that 20 mountain climbers claimed the border wall design is difficult to climb, but Weber and other climbers have said that seems unlikely.

“We were all very puzzled because none of us in the climbing community had heard of these 20 people that had supposedly tried this wall,” Weber says.
These experienced people are saying, ropes or not, the fence is easy to climb. Fox News even had a fraudulent article awile back that some Navy Seals were saying they couldn't find a way to over the fence. People that believe that bullsh*t shouldn't be allowed to vote.
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 JWebb said
Put any border wall around my 1 year olds crib and she’s climbing out over the wall.
People that don’t have kids don’t know that kids LOVE to climb sh*t. They will find a way to climb any damn thing
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