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If you get accused of murder, how much does it cost to defend yourself?



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 2 months ago '21        #76
Drippy B  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x65
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10k and up op is cap
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 2 months ago '19        #77
NoFuxGvn 
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murder, marriage and divorce.

I canít afford them.
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 2 months ago '13        #78
EZ Green  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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That last slide is too real
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 2 months ago '08        #79
EMER1TUS 
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 whammy said
Or become a bailbondsman.
Imma Barber I cut one here in Charlotte son eating we actually stay in the same sub division. Bruh got like 8 cars, n*gga gotta Phantom a Range Lambo all the toys. We live ona golf course he prolly got one of the top 5 cribs in the neighborhood
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 2 months ago '13        #80
recreal 
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Know someone who beat a M charge in small town NC...cost him 300K but it was other circumstances.

I had a major case in NY...not a M. But believe them fees can get crazy.

A proper lawyer going to run you minimum 10-20k for the retainer. Then you have to hire an investigator. All that before you go to trial. They want racks for every court date.

Using a PD to f*ght an M is playing Russian roulette.
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 2 months ago '15        #81
Belief 
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BX members need this message
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 2 months ago '17        #82
FashCashVasquez  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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Plenty of n*ggas got bodies and still on street

If theres no witness
The no case

 2 months ago '17        #83
FashCashVasquez  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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Only thing this goof troop said that was true
Have a good lawyer

The n*gga just babbling after that

Good lawyer
And not having co-defendants
Or witnesses

 2 months ago '17        #84
Mario Chalmers  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x6
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 strat said
Explain?.... most of the attorneys people think are good are just marketing.... if you are charged with a serious felony, you will get a very experienced PD. Where do you think most top defense attorneys come from? They were ex PDs, thats how you get experience f*ghting death cases etc...

If you have a minor case, save your money, its going to plea out anyway.
Bro I donít think you understand the PD system. The amount of time that needs to be dedicated to a murder case is insane. Most PDs donít even have the time to properly defend you on a minor weed charge, yet alone, a murder charge. If you care about your life, you NEVER get a pd. The job of a PD is simply to move you through the system. They do not care about your freedom and will not f*ght for it.

Most prosecutors were PDs first. That should tell you everything you need to know about PDs. Imagine electing to have someone defend you for your life that is only there to be the prosecutor when their PD gig is up.
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 2 months ago '16        #85
smokeytheblunt2 
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 Ace dealer said
Shidddd.....donít know where u live
its usually a mil at least if its even granted here............
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 2 months ago '04        #86
strat 
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 Mario Chalmers said
Bro I donít think you understand the PD system. The amount of time that needs to be dedicated to a murder case is insane. Most PDs donít even have the time to properly defend you on a minor weed charge, yet alone, a murder charge. If you care about your life, you NEVER get a pd. The job of a PD is simply to move you through the system. They do not care about your freedom and will not f*ght for it.

Most prosecutors were PDs first. That should tell you everything you need to know about PDs. Imagine electing to have someone defend you for your life that is only there to be the prosecutor when their PD gig is up.


I think you have no clue what you are talkin about. Most prosecutors werent PDs, they were always prosecutors. Thats a backwards step in your career, you lose all your fu*king seniority to switch sides. There are 2 different type of people who become a prosecutor and PD.

Most private crim defense attorneys were prosecutors or PDs.

The PDs who get murder cases, dont have a bunch of crap felony cases, they handle murder cases, and a low case load. The PD is doesnt want IAC claims. All fu*king attorneys want you plead out, as most clients cant afford Trial. A private attorney usually will bleed you out for 50 grand and then drop your case cuz you cant afford it anymore, and you end up with a PD.

Unless you have serious money, the private attorney you get, will usually be someone who wasnt a very good PD or DA.
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 2 months ago '05        #87
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 strat said
9 out of 10 people are always better off with the PD. PDs are much more experienced Trial attorneys than what the average person can afford. Most private lawyers are either fresh out of law school or former PDs anyway.

The best "private" attorneys do white collar crime. Those are the clients who have the ability to pay. Most people charged with bodies dont got money, or clean money to pay.
I say this with all due disrespect..YOU ARE A fu*kIN IDIOT.

95% of public defenders clients plead guilty because public defenders are too overworked to provide a adequate defense. Most public defenders do their best to not go to trial. So when you say public defenders are more experienced that's actually a lie. In the legal community it's called ďmeet íem and plead íemĒ. Meet the client, get them to quickly agree to a plea and move on to the next case.

And where did you get this bullsh*t that most private lawyers are fresh out of school? That's also a lie.

If your charges are serious enough and if you can afford it then always hire a private attorney.
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 2 months ago '04        #88
brooklonsfinest 
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 MrPersonality said
Since hip-hop glorifies k*lling, what do you guys think of this?




From Eisenberglaw.org,

What The Best Criminal Lawyers Charge

The fees for a criminal attorney can run into the thousands of dollars for misdemeanor, and start at $10,000 to $15,000 for a felony. A murder case might cost $100,000 or more. Only after you have a discussion with an attorney and present the facts of your case will he be able to provide an estimate of your potential attorney’s fees.

Criminal defense attorneys can charge by the hour or by a flat fee. While hourly fees are considered more customer friendly, the final amount can be considerable if the case becomes complicated or proceeds to trial. Many attorneys offer a retainer that covers a specific block of time, with the understanding that the fees will increase if the case goes to trial.

Costs and expenses for investigation, research, court filings, travel, etc. are in addition to the fees for the lawyer’s time. Attorneys with a vast amount of experience like Eisenberg Law Offices, S.C. may cost more than other attorneys, but you are paying for over 35 years of experience and a proven winning track record.


I was looking around and the numbers are pretty much the same, state by state, across the country.

I never put the numbers in perspective so I thought I was interesting. Basically if you are accused of murder, and you’re broke, you’re sorta kinda fu*ked.

What y’all think?
You are right. What is sad is that it doesn't matter how good of person you have been throughout your life. It doesn't mean you can't get caught up in a bad situation.

Imagine this hypothetical situation. The good guy has a gun pulled on him by a convicted felon. He is able to remove the gun from the perp and ends up k*lling him or an innocent bystander in the process.

Although the death of the perp or the innocent bystander wasn't intentional, the good guy will still be facing a murder charge that can be beaten by a good criminal defense lawyer.

The lawyer fees still remain astronomical and will end up destroying the good man's financial future. The best thing to do in a situation like this is to walk away if possible. It could save you a ton of grief.

Hopefully this made up story can be food for thought for my fellow men who do not understand that having to much pride can cost you everything .


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 2 months ago '18        #89
braze189 
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Cost me $250K. Thats with a "lost" gun, no witnesses and no body.
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 2 months ago '16        #90
Teknicks 
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 strat said
9 out of 10 people are always better off with the PD. PDs are much more experienced Trial attorneys than what the average person can afford. Most private lawyers are either fresh out of law school or former PDs anyway.

The best "private" attorneys do white collar crime. Those are the clients who have the ability to pay. Most people charged with bodies dont got money, or clean money to pay.
This is horrible advice in the form of trolling
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 2 months ago '04        #91
strat 
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 pippen33 said
I say this with all due disrespect..YOU ARE A fu*kIN IDIOT.

95% of public defenders clients plead guilty because public defenders are too overworked to provide a adequate defense. Most public defenders do their best to not go to trial. So when you say public defenders are more experienced that's actually a lie. In the legal community it's called ďmeet íem and plead íemĒ. Meet the client, get them to quickly agree to a plea and move on to the next case.

And where did you get this bullsh*t that most private lawyers are fresh out of school? That's also a lie.

If your charges are serious enough and if you can afford it then always hire a private attorney.
The point is 9 out of 10 people cannot afford a private attorney. They end up burning through the money and getting dropped.

Most cases fu*king plead out with a PD or private attorney. Most cases don't go to trial. Trials are fu*king risky, especially for criminal defendants.

If you have real money, like in the OP, yes, and you wouldnt qualify for a PD. But if you think 50k is enough to f*ght a serious felony, you are getting a lesser experienced attorney than you would with a PD.

Yes, PDs are over worked, but the criminal defense attorneys that most people can afford work at mills. They want the retainer and want to close your case a quickly as possible. Its thier whole profit motivation.

Look at something as easy as a DUI, where you will have an attorney who will advertise for 1000 bucks not including trial. They have an incentive to plead that sh*t out as quick as possible, even more so than a DA.

The facts are it is very hard to make money as a criminal defense attorney unless you have crazy fu*king volume or a white collar crime practice. So yes, for 9 out of 10 defendants they are better off with the PD.

 2 months ago '04        #92
strat 
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 Teknicks said
This is horrible advice in the form of trolling
Not trolling my man. Ask most attorneys amd if they are being honest they will tell you the smae thing.

 2 months ago '16        #93
Teknicks 
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 strat said
The point is 9 out of 10 people cannot afford a private attorney. They end up burning through the money and getting dropped.

Most cases fu*king plead out with a PD or private attorney. Most cases don't go to trial. Trials are fu*king risky, especially for criminal defendants.

If you have real money, like in the OP, yes, and you wouldnt qualify for a PD. But if you think 50k is enough to f*ght a serious felony, you are getting a lesser experienced attorney than you would with a PD.

Yes, PDs are over worked, but the criminal defense attorneys that most people can afford work at mills. They want the retainer and want to close your case a quickly as possible. Its thier whole profit motivation.

Look at something as easy as a DUI, where you will have an attorney who will advertise for 1000 bucks not including trial. They have an incentive to plead that sh*t out as quick as possible, even more so than a DA.

The facts are it is very hard to make money as a criminal defense attorney unless you have crazy fu*king volume or a white collar crime practice. So yes, for 9 out of 10 defendants they are better off with the PD.

Total bullshyt. Private lawyers get better plea deals period.

PDs are actually good lawyers in most cases. They are just so over worked they don't have the time to find procedural errors.

Anyone who says different doesn't know any better.
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 2 months ago '15        #94
Ace dealer 
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 smokeytheblunt2 said
its usually a mil at least if its even granted here............
Sadly know all too well

And when numbers get that high allot of bondsmen donít touch that, so u better have that percentage cash....

So 10% is 100k cash......gone

Now u still got pay lawyers and take care family business

99% people get locked ainít really ready when it comes
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 2 months ago '15        #95
Ace dealer 
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 strat said
The point is 9 out of 10 people cannot afford a private attorney. They end up burning through the money and getting dropped.

Most cases fu*king plead out with a PD or private attorney. Most cases don't go to trial. Trials are fu*king risky, especially for criminal defendants.

If you have real money, like in the OP, yes, and you wouldnt qualify for a PD. But if you think 50k is enough to f*ght a serious felony, you are getting a lesser experienced attorney than you would with a PD.

Yes, PDs are over worked, but the criminal defense attorneys that most people can afford work at mills. They want the retainer and want to close your case a quickly as possible. Its thier whole profit motivation.

Look at something as easy as a DUI, where you will have an attorney who will advertise for 1000 bucks not including trial. They have an incentive to plead that sh*t out as quick as possible, even more so than a DA.

The facts are it is very hard to make money as a criminal defense attorney unless you have crazy fu*king volume or a white collar crime practice. So yes, for 9 out of 10 defendants they are better off with the PD.



U don’t know what u talking about........

 2 months ago '16        #96
Teknicks 
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 strat said
Not trolling my man. Ask most attorneys amd if they are being honest they will tell you the smae thing.
No they won't
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 2 months ago '15        #97
Ace dealer 
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 Teknicks said
Total bullshyt. Private lawyers get better plea deals period.

PDs are actually good lawyers in most cases. They are just so over worked they don't have the time to find procedural errors.

Anyone who says different doesn't know any better.
This.....

And people are human.....and people want money

In a business U can only command what your worth.....

So anybody thinking a public defender f*ghting 100 cases gonna give u same outcome and the high power lawyer who plays golf with the judge every other Friday got life fu*ked up


Yes there are some things and situations where a person is fu*ked regardless if they reincarnated Johnny Cochran and the whole dream team....or got a public defender

But reality is allot of the people who get serious felonies donít have the money or the public standing to not get railroad.....
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 2 months ago '19        #98
aaf192020 
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 whammy said
Doesn't matter.

You don't listen to her anyway.

 2 months ago '04        #99
strat 
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 Ace dealer said
U donít know what u talking about........
I completely do. Do you know who is a good attorney and who isnt? And if so, how? Are you in superior court watching people try cases? Do you know who judges are, who they interact with, where they come from?

Most people fu*king dont. Thats why its hard to judge if your attorney did a good job.

Very good and very experienced criminal defense attorneys cost a lot of fu*king money. Every day pf trial costs extra. Attorneys withdraw when clients cant afford to pay. These are facts. Most people cant afford a very good attorney. They end up paying alot of money for a mediocre attorney and getting probably a lesser attorney than a PD with likely the same result.

 2 months ago '04        #100
strat 
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 Teknicks said
Total bullshyt. Private lawyers get better plea deals period.

PDs are actually good lawyers in most cases. They are just so over worked they don't have the time to find procedural errors.

Anyone who says different doesn't know any better.

Private lawyers aint got time for that either unless you have big money. They are trying to burn through cases as quick as possible. Thats the business model. Everyone attorney is fu*king overworked, thats part of the job.



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