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 5 months ago '16        #1
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GUMa  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x10
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Dirk seemed better than KG when it counted to be honest
 

 
Dirk > KG. Superior title-run, won more games, dominated head2head, better at scoring, way better at scoring in the clutch. Frankly I’m not sure how people get so hung up on the aspect that KG was a much better defender than Dirk and extrapolate it to mean some fuzzy math equation where Dirk’s offense and KG’s defense had equal value when the reality is that Dirk’s shortcomings merely necessitated a Tyson Chandler while KG needed 2 other prime or barely post-prime HoFers and a baby Rondo just to achieve the exact same record in the Finals.

KG might of been the more complete player, but in the playoffs im going with Dirk.


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 5 months ago '19        #2
FrivolousSports 
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Dirk is the reason journeymen got a show called all the smoke and they celebrate making the 2nd round

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 5 months ago '20        #3
Tweezy12  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x8
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Kg was the better player
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 5 months ago '05        #4
legacy313 
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The reason why I put KG over Dirk is because of the defense. 9x All Defensive 1st Team appearances for KG compared to Dirk's 0. KG was a two way player, Dirk was a scorer.
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 5 months ago '16        #5
GUMa  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x10 OP
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 Tweezy12 said
Kg was the better player
true, but i feel like Dirk was better in the playoffs
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 5 months ago '19        #6
Rocko 
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Might as well say Dirk > TD since he was a much better scorer than him too.

You're over valuing scoring and under valuing defense, passing, rebounding, etc.

Talk all this stuff about KG needing hall of famers but Dirk had Steve Nash for half of his career.


Last edited by Rocko; 05-11-2021 at 09:53 AM..
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 5 months ago '15        #7
TheCompanyMan  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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KG made it to two finals and was robbed of one.

How many finals did Dirk make it to? Off top I only remember one.
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 5 months ago '18        #8
yunhsus  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x7
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 TheCompanyMan said
KG made it to two finals and was robbed of one.

How many finals did Dirk make it to? Off top I only remember one.
He made it to two as the main guy and was robbed off of his potential first chip by the refs gifting wade fts like they were candy
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 5 months ago '19        #9
Rocko 
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 yunhsus said
He made it to two as the main guy and was robbed off of his potential first chip by the refs gifting wade fts like they were candy
This the perfect example of how people undervalue defense. As a big one of your jobs is rim protection, Wade saw and exploited Dallas's lack of interior defense. They lost because they had nobody to lock the paint up, that's on Dirk.
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 5 months ago '14        #10
LuckiiWaviano  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x12
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Because elite offense > defense
And Dirk had an unstoppable move
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 5 months ago '20        #11
Columbo 
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 TheCompanyMan said
KG made it to two finals and was robbed of one.

How many finals did Dirk make it to? Off top I only remember one.
If anything kg is lucky to have that one ring. He joined up with 2 other stars to get it, Dirk didnt have any co stars in 2011

When the Celtics won in 08 it was against a Lakers team that didnt have Bynum and trevor Ariza. Yet all you hear from Celtics fans is how they didnt have Perkins for game 7 in 2010. Perk was getting dominated by Bynum and Sheed was doing a better job anyways
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 5 months ago '20        #12
4220  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x6
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 TheCompanyMan said
KG made it to two finals and was robbed of one.

How many finals did Dirk make it to? Off top I only remember one.
How was he robbed, I donít remember?
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 5 months ago '04        #13
SpunkyXL23  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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KG and that Celts team was overrated..they run their mouth like it was some dynasty
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 5 months ago '13        #14
Hayek  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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Dirk better than malone too
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 5 months ago '16        #15
00010111  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x6
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 Polo P said
Dirk better than malone too
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 5 months ago '16        #16
ahonui06  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x29
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 Rocko said
Might as well say Dirk > TD since he was a much better scorer than him too.

You're over valuing scoring and under valuing defense, passing, rebounding, etc.

Talk all this stuff about KG needing hall of famers but Dirk had Steve Nash for half of his career.
 legacy313 said
The reason why I put KG over Dirk is because of the defense. 9x All Defensive 1st Team appearances for KG compared to Dirk's 0. KG was a two way player, Dirk was a scorer.
9x All-D KG got swept by DIRK in the playoffs

DIRK dropped 33 & 16 on 53-73-89 on KG's head in that series

DIRK always won a title without another all-star or All-NBA player and had a legendary run. KG did not.
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 5 months ago '17        #17
DonC  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x8
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 Rocko said
Might as well say Dirk > TD since he was a much better scorer than him too.

You're over valuing scoring and under valuing defense, passing, rebounding, etc.

Talk all this stuff about KG needing hall of famers but Dirk had Steve Nash for half of his career.
There is a decent gap between Timmy and KG dummy...saying Dirk is better than KG is not the same as saying Dirk is better than KG. Timmy was a rock regular season and playoffs all thru, can't say the same of KG....
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 5 months ago '18        #18
PooPoopops  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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 Polo P said
Dirk better than malone too

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 5 months ago '12        #19
NYCBravado 
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KG HISTORICALLY didn’t have the good players and coaching that Dirk had.

Prime Steve Nash, Michael Finely, antwan Jamison, Jerry Stackhouse, Jason Terry, Josh Howard, Jason Kidd, Peja, Tyson Chandler.

KG had who? Sprewell, Sam, Ray, Rondo, Pierce.

KG was the better all around player
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 5 months ago '05        #20
legacy313 
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 LuckiiWaviano said
Because elite offense > defense
And Dirk had an unstoppable move
That's not a fair comparison, KG is one of the greatest defensive players of all time, Dirk is a terrible defender. KG was a good scorer, Dirk was a great one. So KG is doing both at a high level, Dirk is only doing 1.
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 5 months ago '18        #21
HoopLife88 
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KG was playing dam near every position in Minnesota. Dirk the truth but no sir
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 5 months ago '14        #22
LuckiiWaviano  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x12
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 TheCompanyMan said
KG made it to two finals and was robbed of one.

How many finals did Dirk make it to? Off top I only remember one.
06 and 11??
An Mavs were always a playoff threat under Dirk
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 5 months ago '18        #23
PooPoopops  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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 NYCBravado said
KG had who? Sprewell, Sam, Ray, Rondo, Pierce.
Marbury, Gugliotta, Terrell Brandon, Szczerbiak, Billups, Bobby Jackson, Joe Smith, to name a few

 5 months ago '05        #24
legacy313 
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 ahonui06 said
9x All-D KG got swept by DIRK in the playoffs

DIRK dropped 33 & 16 on 53-73-89 on KG's head in that series

DIRK always won a title without another all-star or All-NBA player and had a legendary run. KG did not.
All Dirk had to do was score. KG had to do everything on both ends. Minnesota had some of the worst rosters in the NBA during KG's prime, Dirk always had a solid team around him
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 5 months ago '19        #25
Rocko 
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 ahonui06 said
9x All-D KG got swept by DIRK in the playoffs

DIRK dropped 33 & 16 on 53-73-89 on KG's head in that series

DIRK always won a title without another all-star or All-NBA player and had a legendary run. KG did not.
We already established that Dirk was a better scorer than KG bruh



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