Why are MJ fans okay with the thought of Lebron being "as good" as him but not Kobe?

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 8 years ago '10        #221
Big Louie Champ 117 heat pts117
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there will never be a ;ayer like jordan kobe comes close but kobe is his own player. when he retire n*ggas is gonna be like i wanna be the nest kobe. and lebron cant be compared to jordan cuz lebron is a whole different player.
 8 years ago '07        #222
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..... @ whomever keeps bumping this old thread like we don't have ENOUGH Kobe vs Lebron vs Jordan threads as it is
 8 years ago '09        #223
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 wtr1906 said:
..... @ whomever keeps bumping this old thread like we don't have ENOUGH Kobe vs Lebron vs Jordan threads as it is
I always keep seeing it pop up and I'm like
 8 years ago '09        #224
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 Black Magick said:
This is an even better question.

Why is it that Kobe stans get mad and mention rings and a few accomplishments when people say that LeBron is the better individual player between him and Kobe.

BUT --- Kobe stans think it's okay to say that Kobe is better than Jordan or as good as Jordan when Kobe hasn't even accomplished 25% of what Jordan did in his career?
Ok so answer this, why do people mention rings and how Jordan has more than Kobe?

Its because Rings are all that matters. Why do you think Lebron has worked on his jumpshot year after year? Its to become a better player on offense. Why do you think he's trying to become a better offensive player? Its so he can help his team win. Why do you want to help your team win? Becuase winning the games you need to = Winning a championship.

Lebron wouldnt be putting up the stats, accolades, etc if it wasnt helping his team win.
 8 years ago '04        #225
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 Black Magick said:
This is an even better question.

Why is it that Kobe stans get mad and mention rings and a few accomplishments when people say that LeBron is the better individual player between him and Kobe.

BUT --- Kobe stans think it's okay to say that Kobe is better than Jordan or as good as Jordan when Kobe hasn't even accomplished 25% of what Jordan did in his career?
 8 years ago '10        #226
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 TheG1ftedOne said:
Ok so answer this, why do people mention rings and how Jordan has more than Kobe?

Its because Rings are all that matters. Why do you think Lebron has worked on his jumpshot year after year? Its to become a better player on offense. Why do you think he's trying to become a better offensive player? Its so he can help his team win. Why do you want to help your team win? Becuase winning the games you need to = Winning a championship.

Lebron wouldnt be putting up the stats, accolades, etc if it wasnt helping his team win.
Rings are ALL that matters

no ones wants to be a career loser....

players who lead there teams to chips are immortalized

players who dont they say "He never won a ring"


 8 years ago '10        #227
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 Black Magick said:
This is an even better question.

Why is it that Kobe stans get mad and mention rings and a few accomplishments when people say that LeBron is the better individual player between him and Kobe.

BUT --- Kobe stans think it's okay to say that Kobe is better than Jordan or as good as Jordan when Kobe hasn't even accomplished 25% of what Jordan did in his career?
i hear pro ball players say kobe is as good as jordan all the time...

not just stans

the so called "pro analyst" all say the same thing?

everybody wrong?
 8 years ago '09        #228
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 JayDawn said:
Rings are ALL that matters

no ones wants to be a career loser....

players who lead there teams to chips are immortalized

players who dont they say "He never won a ring"


Thats kind of the point I was making
 8 years ago '04        #229
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 TheG1ftedOne said:
Ok so answer this, why do people mention rings and how Jordan has more than Kobe?

Its because Rings are all that matters. Why do you think Lebron has worked on his jumpshot year after year? Its to become a better player on offense. Why do you think he's trying to become a better offensive player? Its so he can help his team win. Why do you want to help your team win? Becuase winning the games you need to = Winning a championship.

Lebron wouldnt be putting up the stats, accolades, etc if it wasnt helping his team win.
Yeah ur right...

That makes perfect sense thats why the 50 greatest players of all time named in 96 all have rings... Oh wait they dont...

If rings are all that matters then you wouldnt have players on that list that dont have rings...

The only reason people bring up rings with Jordan and Kobe is to show u how hypocritical you Kobe stans are... You claim Kobe is greater than other players because he has more rings but when we say Jordan is better for the same thing you say that doesnt mean he is better... Even though yall use the same argument against other players

U dont even need to bring up rings to show Jordan is a better player... Take away rings from the conversation and Kobe still doesnt compare to Jordan... When you bring up what Jordan accomplished then you say Jordan didnt have any competition or he was given this or given that... The point is it doesnt matter what is brought up to show a player is better than Kobe u n*ggas will always whine and b**ch about sumtin to either discredit the other player...
 8 years ago '04        #230
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 JayDawn said:
i hear pro ball players say kobe is as good as jordan all the time...

not just stans

the so called "pro analyst" all say the same thing?

everybody wrong?
Thats what u people dont understand... Jordan was not the greatest talent, greatest athlete, greatest winner or greatest clutch player to ever play basketball... He was just the best combination of all of those things together... Yes Kobe is as good as Jordan, Yes Lebron is as good as Jordan, Yes Wade is as good as Jordan... We all know they have the talent level to do what Jordan did and even more maybe...

Thats not the point... Being as good and as talented as Jordan doesnt mean much there have been alot of players as good as him but did not impact the league like him, accomplish what he did and succeed like he did all in one player...

Kobe came the closest but when u look at their resume now after 13 years each Jordan still wins with or without rings... There is nothing Kobe can put on his 13 year resume that will look better than Jordan's 13 year resume... Thats not even an argument... You can argue about who is the better talent all day long but that doesnt translate to what you accomplish...

Jordan had 4 things going for him... He was the best winner of his era... The best impact of his era... The best scorer of his era... Best leader of his era... You cant say that about another player
 8 years ago '09        #231
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 dre03 said:
Yeah ur right...

That makes perfect sense thats why the 50 greatest players of all time named in 96 all have rings... Oh wait they dont...

If rings are all that matters then you wouldnt have players on that list that dont have rings...

The only reason people bring up rings with Jordan and Kobe is to show u how hypocritical you Kobe stans are... You claim Kobe is greater than other players because he has more rings but when we say Jordan is better for the same thing you say that doesnt mean he is better... Even though yall use the same argument against other players

U dont even need to bring up rings to show Jordan is a better player... Take away rings from the conversation and Kobe still doesnt compare to Jordan... When you bring up what Jordan accomplished then you say Jordan didnt have any competition or he was given this or given that... The point is it doesnt matter what is brought up to show a player is better than Kobe u n*ggas will always whine and b**ch about sumtin to either discredit the other player...
So tell me Lebron will be able to be considered the GOAT or one of the GOATS without rings?
Please..

Are we talking 50 greatest of all-time or Greatest player of all time? Of course there are going to be players in the top 50 who dont have rings. If you want to be one of the 50 greatest of all-time thats all them. Im sure Lebron would like to be known as the GOAT or one of them, and not having rings isnt going to be enough.
 8 years ago '09        #232
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 dre03 said:
Thats what u people dont understand... Jordan was not the greatest talent, greatest athlete, greatest winner or greatest clutch player to ever play basketball... He was just the best combination of all of those things together... Yes Kobe is as good as Jordan, Yes Lebron is as good as Jordan, Yes Wade is as good as Jordan... We all know they have the talent level to do what Jordan did and even more maybe...

Thats not the point... Being as good and as talented as Jordan doesnt mean much there have been alot of players as good as him but did not impact the league like him, accomplish what he did and succeed like he did all in one player...

Kobe came the closest but when u look at their resume now after 13 years each Jordan still wins with or without rings... There is nothing Kobe can put on his 13 year resume that will look better than Jordan's 13 year resume... Thats not even an argument... You can argue about who is the better talent all day long but that doesnt translate to what you accomplish...

Jordan had 4 things going for him... He was the best winner of his era... The best impact of his era... The best scorer of his era... Best leader of his era... You cant say that about another player
Bingo :agreement6:

Kobe's skill level is as good if not better than Jordan. But Jordan's mental game and intangibles are second to none. Thats what make him better than Kobe, Lebron, etc.
 8 years ago '10        #233
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 TheG1ftedOne said:
Thats kind of the point I was making
i was agreeing but i didnt put the co sign smiley

and people say kobe is the most competitive since jordan too...

and works as hard....

maybe im the only one thats heard that
 8 years ago '07        #234
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 P. Dedos said:
i never see bron fans saying hes better than jordan




and if they did that they would get sonned just like chokie cryant stans

You know how we know LeBron stans..basically YOU are the most annoying?

You refer to the greatest clutch player of all time as "chokie"... you're a f*g
 8 years ago '09        #235
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Lebron will never be MJ or Kobe! He's not mentally tough, doesnt have the winner intangibles

He choked yet again
 7 years ago '10        #236
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i agree with half the people on here.. why type a whole fckin paragraph.. its simple
MJ>Kobe>>>>Lebron.. duh b**ches..
 7 years ago '10        #237
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rings dont matter much if your talking bout skill.
look at derrick fisher and steve nash.. who is better, and who has a ring?
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