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“The Last Dance” 10-part Mini-Series [Live Discussion x Debate Thread]



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 8 months ago '21        #5601
Optimus Maximus  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 OVERLORD said
MJ is a busta for not supporting harvey gant


"republicans buy shoes too" WTF
Michael Jordan didn't want to be a Martyr for someone else's causes or a pawn, puppet and a useful idiot for Harvey Gantt.

What was the incentive for Jordan to be a pawn and a political football for Harvey Gantt?



As a black man in America Michael Jordan had a once in a lifetime opportunity to create generational wealth for his family and residual income and royalties for himself and he wasn't going to allow anyone to ruin that opportunity.
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 8 months ago '21        #5602
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 SmoothTay said
Kobe & Jordan share thesame chromosome or somethin sh*t crazy
There was no Kobe & Jordan.

It's Michael Jordan and everyone else.
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 8 months ago '10        #5603
SmoothTay 
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 Optimus Maximus said
There was no Kobe & Jordan.

It's Michael Jordan and everyone else.
Stop it wipe your mouth


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 8 months ago '21        #5604
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 yungpizzle82 said
Hate to be that guy but I doubt she's in this.

She really knows where the bones are buried...



MJ ain't lettin' her blow up the spot-he already exposed enough in his eyes
You stupid dumb motherfu*ker. The reason why Jordan's ex wife Juanita Vanoy wasn't in the The Last Dance Documentary was because she had absolutely nothing to do with his achievements, accolades, accomplishments, awards, championships, fame, importance, influence, popularity, recognition, stratospheric superstardom or transcendence plus she signed a NDA aka Non-disclosure agreement.
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 8 months ago '21        #5605
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 acegutta22 said
I think Michael Jordan got his dad k*lled gambling and s***
How come nobody else got k*lled?

fu*king sh*t for brains idiot.
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 8 months ago '21        #5606
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 Lurker said
I still think he got suspended on the low tho
Jordan would've never been allowed to play professional baseball if he was suspended you dumb motherfu*ker.
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 8 months ago '21        #5607
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 Pos said
truth never coming out, he taking that to his grave
But the truth did come out and all the lies were debunked but you're just a damn HATER.
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 8 months ago '21        #5608
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 JohnnyCage202 said
Team Jordan on this side and that's no question...

...but you do gotta give Bron credit for that.

Hell, its a miracle his body has even held up this long...
You can't compare what Jordan was going through to LeBron's no defense or resistance NBA.
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 8 months ago '21        #5609
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 OVERLORD said
jordan got his father k*lled over a gambling debt?
Hey fu*k n*gga, how come nobody else got k*lled?
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 8 months ago '07        #5610
OVERLORD 
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 8 months ago '21        #5611
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 SmoothTay said
Stop it wipe your mouth


Michael Jordan was 40 years old coming back from an MCL injury.

Jerry Stackhouse guarded Kobe.

36-year-old Kobe averaged an incredible 17.6 PPG on 35% from the field and led the Lakers to a phenomenal record of 17-65 in his last season.


THE MOST REGULAR SEASON MVPS AND FINAL MVPS COMBINED

1. MICHAEL JORDAN 11

T2. LEBRON JAMES 8

T2. KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR 8

3. MAGIC JOHNSON 6

T4. WILT CHAMBERLAIN 5

T4. BILL RUSSELL 5

T4. LARRY BIRD 5

T4. TIM DUNCAN 5

Why isn't Kobe Bryant on this list?

Kobe never led the NBA in PER or Winshares

Most PPG in an NBA Finals
Jordan - 41.0 (1993)
Kobe - 32.4 (2009)

Most RPG in an NBA Finals
Jordan - 8.5 (1993)
Kobe - 8.0 (2010)

Most APG in an NBA Finals
Jordan - 11.4 (1991)
Kobe - 7.4 (2009)

Most SPG in an NBA Finals
Jordan - 2.8 (1991)
Kobe - 2.7 (2008)

Most BPG in an NBA Finals
Jordan - 1.4 (1991)
Kobe - 1.4 (2000, 2001, and 2009)

Highest FG% in an NBA Finals
Jordan - 55.6% (1991)
Kobe - 51.4% (2002)

Least PPG in an NBA Finals
Jordan - 27.3 (1996)
Kobe - 19.0 (2000) - Game 2 where Kobe was injured and left after 9 minutes was not counted
Kobe - 22.6 (2004) - in case people want to use the excuse that Kobe was inexperienced in 2000

Lowest FG% in an NBA Finals
Jordan - 41.5% (1996)
Kobe - 36.7% (2000) - Game 2 where Kobe was injured and left after 9 minutes was not counted
Kobe - 38.1% (2004) - in case people want to use the excuse that Kobe was inexperienced in 2000

Kobe has shot 41.5% or less in 5/7 NBA Finals

Seasons shooting 50% or more
Jordan - 6
Kobe - 0

Playoff series averaging 40+ ppg
Jordan - 5
0.2 ppg short of 6 series with 40+ ppg in 1989 vs the Cavs
Jordan is the only player in history with multiple 40+ ppg playoff series
Kobe - 0

Playoff runs with 30+ PPG
Jordan - 12
Kobe - 5

Playoff runs with more than 8 APG
Jordan - 2
Kobe - 0

Kobe wasn't a copy of Jordan. He was inferior to Jordan.

GOAT Jordan > Poor man's Jordan (Kobe Bryant)

Rings
Jordan 6
Kobe 5

Finals Mvps
Jordan 6 (most all time)
Kobe 2

League Mvps
Jordan 5
Kobe 1

Total Mvps (league and Finals)
Jordan 11 (most all time)
Kobe 3

Scoring titles
Jordan 10 (most all time)
Kobe 2

Steals leader
Jordan 3 (1988, 1990, 1993)
Kobe 0

All defensive first team selections
Jordan 9 in 15 years 60%

Kobe 9 in 20 years 45%

Defensive player of year
Jordan 1 (1988)
Kobe 0

Career Steals
Jordan 2,514
Kobe 1,944

Career blocks
Jordan 893
Kobe 640

Seasons played
Kobe 20
Jordan 15 (retired three times)

Points per game (regular season)
Jordan 30.12 (1st all time)
Kobe 24.99

Player efficiency rating
Jordan 1st all time
Kobe 24th all time

Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg career

Seasons average +30 ppg
Jordan 8
Kobe 3

Seasons average +30 ppg on 50% fg
Jordan 5
Kobe 0

3point% (NBA finals)
Jordan 36.8%
Kobe 31.4%

Playoff game winning buzzer beaters
Jordan 3
Kobe 1

Game tying or go ahead shots in 4th quarter last 24 seconds to take lead or tie
Jordan 9-18 fg for 50%
Kobe 7-28 fg for 25%

Jordan was a better, greater and superior player than the inefficient and overrated Kobe Bryant.

Wipe your mouth bi*ch!




Last edited by Optimus Maximus; 07-30-2022 at 08:16 AM..
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 8 months ago '09        #5612
rexplosive  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x19
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Looking at the reviews on IMDB and how big this was

is this the greatest documentary in history?
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 8 months ago '17        #5613
216Martyr 
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Why do yall keep egging this man on when it is clear he has a mental/behavioral disorder. Just put him and his other account on ignore and keep it moving
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 8 months ago '10        #5614
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 Optimus Maximus said
How come nobody else got k*lled?

fu*king sh*t for brains idiot.
sh*t for brains shut the fu*k up you Internet tough talker poster address I will fly over there and smack the sh*t out of you
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 8 months ago '21        #5615
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 acegutta22 said
sh*t for brains shut the fu*k up you Internet tough talker poster address I will fly over there and smack the sh*t out of you



Pull up or STFU keyboard clown!


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 8 months ago '14        #5616
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 rexplosive said
Looking at the reviews on IMDB and how big this was

is this the greatest documentary in history?
sports documentary yes
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 8 months ago '14        #5617
Kyu  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x41 OP
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 King Am I said
Title teams with lowest scoring supporting casts for the overall playoffs
Post-1954 (Shot Clock Era)

10. 1994 Rockets - 68.3 PPG
9. 2006 Heat - 67.8 PPG
8. 1993 Bulls - 67.3 PPG
7. 2012 Heat - 67.0 PPG
6. 1996 Bulls - 66.7 PPG
5. 1992 Bulls - 65.9 PPG
4. 2004 Pistons - 65.6 PPG
3. 1999 Spurs - 65.2 PPG
2. 1997 Bulls - 61.5 PPG
1. 1998 Bulls - 60.8 PPG

Title teams with sub-66 PPG supporting casts for the overall playoffs
Post-1954 (Shot Clock Era)
5. 1992 Bulls - 65.9 PPG
4. 2004 Pistons - 65.6 PPG
3. 1999 Spurs - 65.2 PPG
2. 1997 Bulls - 61.5 PPG
1. 1998 Bulls - 60.8 PPG

Sub-60 ppg supporting casts in the NBA Finals for Championship Teams
Post-1954 (Shot-Clock Era)

5. 1994 Rockets - 59.3 ppg
4. 2006 Heat - 58.2 ppg
3. 1999 Spurs - 57.4 ppg
2. 1997 Bulls - 55.5 ppg
1. 1998 Bulls - 54.5 ppg

In the shot-clock era, Jordan has
- 5 of the 8 lowest scoring playoff supporting casts for title teams
- 4 of the 6 lowest scoring playoff supporting casts for title teams
- 3 of the 5 lowest scoring playoff supporting casts for title teams
- The 2 lowest scoring playoff supporting casts for title teams

- Jordan is the only player to lead multiple top 10 lowest-scoring playoff supporting casts among title teams
 Optimus Maximus said
Craig Hodges had absolutely nothing to do with the Bulls winning back-to-back Championships.

Craig Hodges
1991 NBA Finals 3.8 PPG
1992 NBA Finals 1.0 PPG

Craig Hodges was a bench warming bum on his way out of the NBA.
 Optimus Maximus said
I'm coming for all you bi*ch a*s Jordan haters.

I'm working on 100 threads right now.


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 8 months ago '21        #5618
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 Simp Hand Weak said
Mike never said it I'll take his word
Michael Jordan was being magnanimous and mendacious towards the media.
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 8 months ago '21        #5619
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 Marccoogs19 said
I would have loved to see the Rockets play the Bulls instead of the Magic that year. That series was so easy for Houston.
Nobody beats Michael Jordan in the NBA Finals.

Only NBA player in history to go 12-0 in the championship stage
1982 NCAA Title
1983 Gold Medal
1984 Gold Medal
1991 NBA Title
1992 NBA Title
The 1992 Tournament of the Americas
1992 Gold Medal
1993 NBA Title
1996 NBA Title
1997 NBA Title
1997 McDonald's International Title
1998 NBA Title

□ Michael Jordan

The Rockets had a losing record in the Playoffs vs the teams the Bulls beat in the Finals.

They were 0-6 in opportunities, but they can forever hang their hats on beating the Bulls in the regular season. Now only if they could have beat the teams that the Bulls beat for Championships in the Playoffs.

Michael Jordan would've averaged 40 plus per game in the NBA Finals.

Regular season games aren't the same as the NBA Finals.
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 8 months ago '21        #5620
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 305Trav said
MJ might be 6-0 in the Finals but n*gga got eliminated so many times in the playoffs lmao
Michael Jordan started his NBA career on the bottom playing with bums, drug addicts and scrubs. Jordan didn't have the luxury of team hopping from team to team to team forming super teams.

There was 6 different versions of Jordan in terms of playing style

(a) 1984-1988 Athletic Freak

(b) 1989-1991Apex Predator

(c) 1991-1993 Apex Prime Predator

(d) 1995 Coming back from playing baseball rusty Jordan

(e) 1996-1998 Fadeaway Jordan

(f) Wizards Jordan

None of these versions played the same way.

(d) 1995 Coming back from playing baseball rusty Jordan

Jordan was fatigued in the Orlando series. He didn't have time to turn his baseball body back into a basketball body but the added on to the unparalleled Jordan legacy.


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 8 months ago '21        #5621
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 !!! said
Horace Grant wasn't better than Dennis Rodman

A lot people maintain that the '92 Bulls were the best out of the 6 chip teams and it had nothing to do with Horace Grant.
The Bulls lost in 1995 because Jordan was fatigued from rushing back to save the Bulls from missing the playoffs.

Horace Grant was a role player.

1992 Michael Jordan was an Apex Prime Predator!

Michael Jordan averaged 35.8 points, 6.5 a*sists and 4.8 rebounds in 6 games in the 1992 NBA Finals on 52.6 from the field 42.9 from threes and
89.1 from the free throw line

Put some fu*king respect on Jordan's name.

Horace Grant was a role player that was paid for his role.

Jordan won MORE TITLES with LESS TALENT around him than any other superstar ever.

‘91 Finals Jordan led the Bulls in:

- Points
- a*sists
- Steals
- Blocks

To make this all the more amazing Jordan did not lead the Bulls in TO’s

But the Bulls won because of Horace Grant.

Michael Jordan vs Phoenix in the 1993 Finals:

33 PTS - 8 REB - 7 AST - 50% FG
41 PTS - 7 REB - 7 AST - 55% FG
55 PTS - 8 REB - 4 AST - 57% FG
44 PTS - 9 REB - 6 AST - 44% FG
42 PTS - 12 REB - 9 AST - 50% FG
31 PTS - 7 REB - 5 AST - 50% FG

But the Bulls won because of Horace Grant.

Michael Jordan Playoff Clutch Shooting Stats (89-93):

Last 5 minutes, Score within 5:
51.4 FG% (76/148)

Last 2 minutes, Score within 3:
56.1 FG% (23/41)

No one does it better.

The 1st 3-peat Chicago Bulls bench was outscored in the 9/12 playoff series.
+13 vs Knicks
-26 vs 76ers
-94 vs Pistons
-11 vs Lakers
+26 vs Heat
-35 vs Knicks
-9 vs Cavs
-13 vs Blazers
+19 vs Hawks
-7 vs Cavs
-40 vs Knicks
-48 vs Suns
"sUpErTeAm"

% of team points in the Finals in Championship seasons for Jordan

30.8% (Jordan 1991)
34.5% (Jordan 1992)
38.4% (Jordan 1993)
29.4% (Jordan 1996)
36.8% (Jordan 1997)
38.1% (Jordan 1998)

Michael Jordan vs The NBA Finals

- 33.6 PPG career average
- Highest PPG avg for a series: 41.0
- Most PTS in a half: 35
- Most consecutive shots made: 13
- Most consecutive 40 PT games: 4
- Highest AST avg for non PG: 11.4
- A perfect 6-0 Record

Michael Jordan first 3-Peat Finals stats:

- 36.3 PPG
- 6.7 RPG
- 7.9 APG

52.6% FG/42.1% 3PT/80.5% FT

No one has even averaged 35/6/7 for more than 6 finals games.

Unstoppable. Had nothing to do with Horace Grant.
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 8 months ago '07        #5622
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Probably the most enjoyable thing during the pandemic
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 8 months ago '14        #5623
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 optimus maximus said
you stupid dumb motherfu*ker. The reason why jordan's ex wife juanita vanoy wasn't in the the last dance documentary was because she had absolutely nothing to do with his achievements, accolades, accomplishments, awards, championships, fame, importance, influence, popularity, recognition, stratospheric superstardom or transcendence plus she signed a nda aka non-disclosure agreement.
fu*k You
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 8 months ago '07        #5624
Cartel-Clipz 
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 Optimus Maximus said
Why?

Not a damn thing would've changed!

Jordan didn't want to be a Martyr for someone else's causes or a pawn, puppet and a useful idiot for Harvey Gantt.
Why the fu*k are you quoting me from something I posted 2 years ago??
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 8 months ago '21        #5625
Optimus Maximus  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 Cartel-Clipz said
Why the fu*k are you quoting me from something I posted 2 years ago??
I'm currently working on 100 new threads and I'm coming for the Jordan HATERS.


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