“The Last Dance” 10-part Mini-Series [Live Discussion x Debate Thread] |
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What was the incentive for Jordan to be a pawn and a political football for Harvey Gantt? As a black man in America Michael Jordan had a once in a lifetime opportunity to create generational wealth for his family and residual income and royalties for himself and he wasn't going to allow anyone to ruin that opportunity. | |
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Jerry Stackhouse guarded Kobe. 36-year-old Kobe averaged an incredible 17.6 PPG on 35% from the field and led the Lakers to a phenomenal record of 17-65 in his last season. THE MOST REGULAR SEASON MVPS AND FINAL MVPS COMBINED 1. MICHAEL JORDAN 11 T2. LEBRON JAMES 8 T2. KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR 8 3. MAGIC JOHNSON 6 T4. WILT CHAMBERLAIN 5 T4. BILL RUSSELL 5 T4. LARRY BIRD 5 T4. TIM DUNCAN 5 Why isn't Kobe Bryant on this list? Kobe never led the NBA in PER or Winshares Most PPG in an NBA Finals Jordan - 41.0 (1993) Kobe - 32.4 (2009) Most RPG in an NBA Finals Jordan - 8.5 (1993) Kobe - 8.0 (2010) Most APG in an NBA Finals Jordan - 11.4 (1991) Kobe - 7.4 (2009) Most SPG in an NBA Finals Jordan - 2.8 (1991) Kobe - 2.7 (2008) Most BPG in an NBA Finals Jordan - 1.4 (1991) Kobe - 1.4 (2000, 2001, and 2009) Highest FG% in an NBA Finals Jordan - 55.6% (1991) Kobe - 51.4% (2002) Least PPG in an NBA Finals Jordan - 27.3 (1996) Kobe - 19.0 (2000) - Game 2 where Kobe was injured and left after 9 minutes was not counted Kobe - 22.6 (2004) - in case people want to use the excuse that Kobe was inexperienced in 2000 Lowest FG% in an NBA Finals Jordan - 41.5% (1996) Kobe - 36.7% (2000) - Game 2 where Kobe was injured and left after 9 minutes was not counted Kobe - 38.1% (2004) - in case people want to use the excuse that Kobe was inexperienced in 2000 Kobe has shot 41.5% or less in 5/7 NBA Finals Seasons shooting 50% or more Jordan - 6 Kobe - 0 Playoff series averaging 40+ ppg Jordan - 5 0.2 ppg short of 6 series with 40+ ppg in 1989 vs the Cavs Jordan is the only player in history with multiple 40+ ppg playoff series Kobe - 0 Playoff runs with 30+ PPG Jordan - 12 Kobe - 5 Playoff runs with more than 8 APG Jordan - 2 Kobe - 0 Kobe wasn't a copy of Jordan. He was inferior to Jordan. GOAT Jordan > Poor man's Jordan (Kobe Bryant) Rings Jordan 6 Kobe 5 Finals Mvps Jordan 6 (most all time) Kobe 2 League Mvps Jordan 5 Kobe 1 Total Mvps (league and Finals) Jordan 11 (most all time) Kobe 3 Scoring titles Jordan 10 (most all time) Kobe 2 Steals leader Jordan 3 (1988, 1990, 1993) Kobe 0 All defensive first team selections Jordan 9 in 15 years 60% Kobe 9 in 20 years 45% Defensive player of year Jordan 1 (1988) Kobe 0 Career Steals Jordan 2,514 Kobe 1,944 Career blocks Jordan 893 Kobe 640 Seasons played Kobe 20 Jordan 15 (retired three times) Points per game (regular season) Jordan 30.12 (1st all time) Kobe 24.99 Player efficiency rating Jordan 1st all time Kobe 24th all time Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg career Seasons average +30 ppg Jordan 8 Kobe 3 Seasons average +30 ppg on 50% fg Jordan 5 Kobe 0 3point% (NBA finals) Jordan 36.8% Kobe 31.4% Playoff game winning buzzer beaters Jordan 3 Kobe 1 Game tying or go ahead shots in 4th quarter last 24 seconds to take lead or tie Jordan 9-18 fg for 50% Kobe 7-28 fg for 25% Jordan was a better, greater and superior player than the inefficient and overrated Kobe Bryant. Wipe your mouth bi*ch! Last edited by Optimus Maximus; 07-30-2022 at 08:16 AM.. | |
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Only NBA player in history to go 12-0 in the championship stage 1982 NCAA Title 1983 Gold Medal 1984 Gold Medal 1991 NBA Title 1992 NBA Title The 1992 Tournament of the Americas 1992 Gold Medal 1993 NBA Title 1996 NBA Title 1997 NBA Title 1997 McDonald's International Title 1998 NBA Title □ Michael Jordan The Rockets had a losing record in the Playoffs vs the teams the Bulls beat in the Finals. They were 0-6 in opportunities, but they can forever hang their hats on beating the Bulls in the regular season. Now only if they could have beat the teams that the Bulls beat for Championships in the Playoffs. Michael Jordan would've averaged 40 plus per game in the NBA Finals. Regular season games aren't the same as the NBA Finals. | |
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There was 6 different versions of Jordan in terms of playing style (a) 1984-1988 Athletic Freak (b) 1989-1991Apex Predator (c) 1991-1993 Apex Prime Predator (d) 1995 Coming back from playing baseball rusty Jordan (e) 1996-1998 Fadeaway Jordan (f) Wizards Jordan None of these versions played the same way. (d) 1995 Coming back from playing baseball rusty Jordan Jordan was fatigued in the Orlando series. He didn't have time to turn his baseball body back into a basketball body but the added on to the unparalleled Jordan legacy. | |
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Horace Grant was a role player. 1992 Michael Jordan was an Apex Prime Predator! Michael Jordan averaged 35.8 points, 6.5 a*sists and 4.8 rebounds in 6 games in the 1992 NBA Finals on 52.6 from the field 42.9 from threes and 89.1 from the free throw line Put some fu*king respect on Jordan's name. Horace Grant was a role player that was paid for his role. Jordan won MORE TITLES with LESS TALENT around him than any other superstar ever. ‘91 Finals Jordan led the Bulls in: - Points - a*sists - Steals - Blocks To make this all the more amazing Jordan did not lead the Bulls in TO’s But the Bulls won because of Horace Grant. ![]() Michael Jordan vs Phoenix in the 1993 Finals: 33 PTS - 8 REB - 7 AST - 50% FG 41 PTS - 7 REB - 7 AST - 55% FG 55 PTS - 8 REB - 4 AST - 57% FG 44 PTS - 9 REB - 6 AST - 44% FG 42 PTS - 12 REB - 9 AST - 50% FG 31 PTS - 7 REB - 5 AST - 50% FG But the Bulls won because of Horace Grant. ![]() Michael Jordan Playoff Clutch Shooting Stats (89-93): Last 5 minutes, Score within 5: 51.4 FG% (76/148) Last 2 minutes, Score within 3: 56.1 FG% (23/41) No one does it better. The 1st 3-peat Chicago Bulls bench was outscored in the 9/12 playoff series. +13 vs Knicks -26 vs 76ers -94 vs Pistons -11 vs Lakers +26 vs Heat -35 vs Knicks -9 vs Cavs -13 vs Blazers +19 vs Hawks -7 vs Cavs -40 vs Knicks -48 vs Suns "sUpErTeAm" % of team points in the Finals in Championship seasons for Jordan 30.8% (Jordan 1991) 34.5% (Jordan 1992) 38.4% (Jordan 1993) 29.4% (Jordan 1996) 36.8% (Jordan 1997) 38.1% (Jordan 1998) Michael Jordan vs The NBA Finals - 33.6 PPG career average - Highest PPG avg for a series: 41.0 - Most PTS in a half: 35 - Most consecutive shots made: 13 - Most consecutive 40 PT games: 4 - Highest AST avg for non PG: 11.4 - A perfect 6-0 Record Michael Jordan first 3-Peat Finals stats: - 36.3 PPG - 6.7 RPG - 7.9 APG 52.6% FG/42.1% 3PT/80.5% FT No one has even averaged 35/6/7 for more than 6 finals games. Unstoppable. Had nothing to do with Horace Grant. | |
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