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Jan 10 - Astonishing U-Turn: Trump says he 'Never meant' Mexico would pay for the wall


 
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 2 weeks ago '18        #26
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Ya gotta read between the lines, Trump is actually a very deep person

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 2 weeks ago '07        #27
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 danneywilliams said
I don't understand the issue here. Mexico is still paying for the wall indirectly through the USMCA. So they're not going to write a big fat check. Who cares?
Now it's indirectly lol.


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 2 weeks ago '05        #28
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 dubsax said
Nah just wait.


Word is that there is the begining of a comprimise.

DACA and legalizing or fast tracking the 11million here now for his 5.7 billion.

Which would be hillarious because just last year they He to the same terms except it was for 23 billion and he backed out after fox grilled him.

This would make him the worst deal maker ever.


Then there is still the thought that this has nothing to do with the wall or immigration.
This is a red herring in hope the Mueller investigation runs out of money without federal funds.
Mueller investigation is already funded for another year I think. I'd say more towards the SDNY investigations into his family. The state charges
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 2 weeks ago '18        #29
danneywilliams 31 heat pts31
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 Bandito said
Can you pinpoint the section of USMCA that will facilitate Mexico paying for the wall?


The wall will not be built.
That wasn't what I said. There will be far more money coming into the U.S. through the new trade deal and that's how Mexico will be paying for the wall indirectly.
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 2 weeks ago '18        #30
danneywilliams 31 heat pts31
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 timdog said
Now it's indirectly lol.

Yes, it changed from the original. sh*t happens with every President. Want me to point out all the sh*t Obama said he'd get done but never did? And that guy had the media backing him.
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 2 weeks ago '05        #31
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Government can deduct a few bucks from my check if it gets the wall built. Make America great again.
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 2 weeks ago '05        #32
Fauby 16 heat pts16
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 danneywilliams said
I don't understand the issue here. Mexico is still paying for the wall indirectly through the USMCA. So they're not going to write a big fat check. Who cares?
You obviously don't understand anything.

The trade deal (usmca) is basically almost exactly the same as NAFTA, jsut with a few minor twists and shiny new name.

One of the biggest wins for Americans in the trade deal against Canada is you increase the milk you can send into Canada to 3.25%, up from I think 2.5%.

Also, Mexico isn't indirectly paying for the wall, I'd you save money on a trade deal. The American tax payers, which trump claimed will not pay for the wall, will pay for the wall.

Mexico will pay $0 for the wall, directly or indirectly
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 2 weeks ago '07        #33
timdog 1084 heat pts1084
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 danneywilliams said
Yes, it changed from the original. sh*t happens with every President. Want me to point out all the sh*t Obama said he'd get done but never did? And that guy had the media backing him.
This not about Obama. This about Donald. He wasn't supposed to be like the other presidents. He wasnt gonna let other countries push him around.

His biggest campaign promise was the wall. Now that Mexico said they not paying for it he has shut down the government smh. He trying to pass the costs to his own people smh.
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 2 weeks ago '08        #34
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Anybody who believed Mexico would actually directly pay for the wall is naive and a bit stupid. I've said it since day 1
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 2 weeks ago '18        #35
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 Fauby said
You obviously don't understand anything.

The trade deal (usmca) is basically almost exactly the same as NAFTA, jsut with a few minor twists and shiny new name.

One of the biggest wins for Americans in the trade deal against Canada is you increase the milk you can send into Canada to 3.25%, up from I think 2.5%.

Also, Mexico isn't indirectly paying for the wall, I'd you save money on a trade deal. The American tax payers, which trump claimed will not pay for the wall, will pay for the wall.

Mexico will pay $0 for the wall, directly or indirectly
Our country will have billions more coming in through the money we save from the companies not leaving our country like they did through NAFTA. I'm no economist but that makes perfect sense to me.
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 2 weeks ago '18        #36
danneywilliams 31 heat pts31
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 timdog said
This not about Obama. This about Donald. He wasn't supposed to be like the other presidents. He wasnt gonna let other countries push him around.

His biggest campaign promise was the wall. Now that Mexico said they not paying for it he has shut down the government smh. He trying to pass the costs to his own people smh.
Yeah, you're right. That was his campaign promise. He tried his damned hardest to get it done, but he couldn't so this is the next best step.



I really don't care as long as the wall gets built.
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 2 weeks ago '05        #37
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Galvanized the fu*k out of his supporters with that rhetoric... his backtracking looks crazy but I doubt his supporters will care
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 2 weeks ago '06        #38
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 danneywilliams said
That wasn't what I said. There will be far more money coming into the U.S. through the new trade deal and that's how Mexico will be paying for the wall indirectly.
that's not even true.

There's no guarantee that the trade deal will generate any greater surplus from Mexico than we were already getting under NAFTA.

What the USMCA changes primarily do is bring money from China to NORTH AMERICA (because the requirements for free trade can be met by manufacturing in Mexico, Canada, or the US and not JUST the US). So hell a US auto company can move all of their production to Mexico if they want and still avoid US auto tariffs.

It's obvious you haven't even read up on the deal, so here, do yourself a favor.

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 2 weeks ago '18        #39
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 HUDA2daF said
Trump on that Rick James sh*t

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 2 weeks ago '18        #40
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 danneywilliams said
That wasn't what I said. There will be far more money coming into the U.S. through the new trade deal and that's how Mexico will be paying for the wall indirectly.
you motherfu*kers can't add
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 2 weeks ago '06        #41
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 _Player2 said
Government can deduct a few bucks from my check if it gets the wall built. Make America great again.
but god forbid they do it to feed starving americans or send children to school.


lmfao you people and your selective socialism.
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 2 weeks ago '04        #42
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 danneywilliams said
I don't understand the issue here. Mexico is still paying for the wall indirectly through the USMCA. So they're not going to write a big fat check. Who cares?
Can you tell us the language in the deal that will pay us billions of dollars each year as trump says?


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If it’s truly billions per year why not just use their money?
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 2 weeks ago '16        #43
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 dubsax said
Nah just wait.


Word is that there is the begining of a comprimise.

DACA and legalizing or fast tracking the 11million here now for his 5.7 billion.

Which would be hillarious because just last year they He to the same terms except it was for 23 billion and he backed out after fox grilled him.

This would make him the worst deal maker ever.


Then there is still the thought that this has nothing to do with the wall or immigration.
This is a red herring in hope the Mueller investigation runs out of money without federal funds.
Taking 17 billion less for the exact same deal
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 2 weeks ago '16        #44
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 Skateboard T said
that's not even true.

There's no guarantee that the trade deal will generate any greater surplus from Mexico than we were already getting under NAFTA.

What the USMCA changes primarily do is bring money from China to NORTH AMERICA (because the requirements for free trade can be met by manufacturing in Mexico, Canada, or the US and not JUST the US). So hell a US auto company can move all of their production to Mexico if they want and still avoid US auto tariffs.

It's obvious you haven't even read up on the deal, so here, do yourself a favor.

You telling me this deal and the new reform AMLO passed in the northern states means Mexicans are gonna be taking more American jobs?
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 2 weeks ago '09        #45
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Does he forget that every single thing he has said in public since he was a candidate has been recorded?

He says things and then says he didn't say them as if the news networks don't have everything he has ever said
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 2 weeks ago '06        #46
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 Aztlan said
You telling me this deal and the new reform AMLO passed in the northern states means Mexicans are gonna be taking more American jobs?
And be getting paid higher wages. The minimum wage is set at $16 to avoid tarriffs now.

Average US wage in this industry is $22/hr so it still saves money on moving to mexico lmao.

We're getting more guaranteed money from Canada than we are Mexico.
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 2 weeks ago '05        #47
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 flav said
Anybody who believed Mexico would actually directly pay for the wall is naive and a bit stupid.

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 2 weeks ago '10        #48
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 danneywilliams said
Yeah, you're right. That was his campaign promise. He tried his damned hardest to get it done, but he couldn't so this is the next best step.



I really don't care as long as the wall gets built.
The wall will not be built.
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 2 weeks ago '05        #49
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 danneywilliams said
Our country will have billions more coming in through the money we save from the companies not leaving our country like they did through NAFTA. I'm no economist but that makes perfect sense to me.


Except for countries are still planning and leaving USA for Mexico with or without the usmca. A major company was announced recently to be moving. Also, outsourcing jobs is at a record pace under trump.

If at all any money coming in from the usmca (which not much has changed if you actually take the time to read both usmca/NAFTA like I had to since I just graduated in International Business, much of it is the same, just updated). What you think you "save" in the usmca will be offset by the tariffs and the aftermath of said tariffs trump is imposing.

Companies like Harley Davidson are leaving America citing tariffs and trade barriers trump placed, and now with China not importing American crops, America/Americans will lose billions, which was just announced your favorite country, Russia will now sign a trade deal with China to supply soy beans to China that American farmers used to.... Let me get the stat.

Farmer investments in international markets produced strong results in the 2016/2017 marketing year.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, U.S. soybean farmers exported a record 2.6 billion bushels of U.S. soy and soy products, valued at over $28 billion last year. It marked the second year in a row that exports exceeded 60 percent of U.S. soybean production.
Also that 26 billion American farmers just brought in in Soy Beans alone in 2017, is all gone. Soy bean exports in 2018 has dropped 94% and still dropping due to trumps tariffs












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 2 weeks ago '17        #50
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Whats a tweet going to do about it?
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