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 1 month ago '06        #36
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 dtdroid said
Another discussion about stats without a single advanced metric featured in the photo in the OP...

It's time baseball fans caught themselves up to speed with the current philosophy of the game and moved beyond batting averages and counting stats. I can tell very little about a hitter's profile after looking at nothing but batting average, runs scored, home runs, RBI and stolen bases. Those are basic, casual stats and nothing more, tantamount to ranking NFL QBs by nothing other than the number of passes they completed every year.

Harper doesn't bring batting average to the table. Hitting for average is not what he was drafted to do. He has an elite eye capable of drawing walks with the best of the MLB, . And both of those stats are before considering Harper's power.

"but but but .222 batting average!"

Yeah. That doesn't fu*king mean anything. In the current era that prioritizes hitters, batting average has never been less important. The stolen base has never been less important. The type of small ball that favors contact hitters and speedsters on the basepath has never been less important. Sabermetrics has done the math on these styles of play and determined that putting a runner on base is a priority that sits well above developing hitters that can hit for high averages, which, no matter how high of a figure we are looking at, will still fail in comparison to the on base percentages of hitters capable of drawing walks at an elite rate.

Mike Trout, for example, is not a special case when we evaluate only his batting average, hitting "just" .307 for his career (still ranking him somewhere in the top 5% of hitters ever, mind you). But when we evaluate his career OBP of .416, we quickly realize he is second only to Joey Votto among active players when it comes to getting on base. Getting on base ~41% of the time, through any means, is simply more valuable in this era than being a .310+ hitter with an inability to draw walks, which is pretty much the absolute extreme ceiling for a player with a profile like a Javy Baez or Jose Altuve.

And yet walks are ignored on boxden entirely, as if unimportant. No, what's relatively unimportant are contact hitters who reach base less than 35-40% of the time, despite hitting safely as much as 30% of the time or more. The guy batting behind these hitters doesn't need them to bat .300 to drive them in at the most effective pace. He needs them to reach base closer to 40% of the time to do that.

Walks matter. Advanced metrics matter.

And Harper's contributions to the Phillies matters a whole lot more than what this lazy criticism of Bryce in this thread would indicate.

and yet teams are still throwing top dollar at offensive players that can mash 35+ HR drive in 100+ RBI and hit .290+

advanced stats is used is specific situations...when teams are near their payroll cap and they need to figure out to fill some roles cheaply...

please...tell me about these small payroll teams winning world series with their advanced stats
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